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Much easier but it'll take a while to get the muscle memory.
The main difference is most motorcycles have a wet, multi plate clutch where cars have a single, dry plate clutch.
The upshot is that you can slip a motorcycle clutch a lot in a way that would damage/wear out a car one. So when you're riding slowly, you don't need to let it all the way out, you can hold it on the bite point and let that pull you along, controlling the speed with the rear brake. This can take a bit of getting used to.
They also have a sequential gearbox so there's a lot less to think about in that regard.
They'll take care of this in the lessons. The usual exercise is repeatedly getting the bike moving forwards then stopping again using the rear brake until you've got the hang of it. Then doing slow manouvers round cones etc. It's all a balance betweenn clutch, throttle and brake. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles. |
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It all depends on what you want to achieve. I could operate the cluch of a Jawa 21 (50cc, two stroke, 3 speed gearbox) right away. Taking off on big bikes is an intimidation game at first for all the beginers though. You have to understand what the clutch bite point is and how to controll it and the best way how to get it right is to practice.
Different bikes also have different aproach, just like cars, but the goal is always the same, find the clutch bite point ane controll it accordingly. Once you get going, shifting gears is easier than you'd think. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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Ignoring old British bikes for a moment I think it helps that the same side of the brain is handling the gears. Left hand/foot > left foot/hand. This obviously doesn't apply to grubby foreigners that drive on the wrong side of the road... might be why Americans like auto-boxes due to the mental confusion ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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What most people forget is that to slow down, the first thing you do is close the throttle. It's easy on a car because you have to take your foot off the throttle to push the brake. You can brake and pull the clutch on a motorcycle with the throttle still open which invariably leads you you stopping and redlining the engine at the same time until you get used to it. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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This lot ^^^ might be smart, I really struggled.
30+ years of ‘car brain’ and I could not get used to the revs required or the lack of torque. Very much used to gently letting out the clutch with close to no additional gas. That stalls a bike every time. Hated the 2k of revs required of a tiddly 125 and it felt really alien.
You will, of course, get used to it. |
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I did my cbt on an auto 125cc on purpose,
Then bought a CG125 and learnt to ride with the clutch on my own, and in my own time. It did help that I already knew how to drive a manual car, anyway. I barely needed to bother going to the car park I was destined for to practice, because by the time I got there- I knew it. ____________________ CBT: 12/06/10, Theory: 22/09/10, Module 1: 09/11/10, Module 2: 19/01/11
Past: 1991 Honda CG125BR-J, 1992 (1980) Honda XL125S, 1996 Kawasaki GPZ500S.
Current: 1981 Honda CX500B - 91k, 1987 MZ ETZ250 (bored to 295cc) - 38k, 1990 MZ ETZ251 - 49k, 1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 9k, 1973 MZ ES250/2 - 17k. |
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.really hard.
Some members have had to buy scooters because of it ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
Then: Fizz, RS200, KL250, XJ550, Laverda Alpina, XJ600, FZS600 |
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