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Before the screeching starts I'd say scooters - and to a certain extent your Goldwings - are just 2-wheeled cars: utilitarian transport. There's nothing a scooter really does better than a motorcycle...
Filtering? In the City I see the scooters filter everything. Throw a bag of coffee beans on the road they'd be filtering that! But that's because a) they're mostly weedy 125s and b) they're ridden by maniacs who just do CBTs on a continuous basis.
Storage? You can get a top box and/or panniers for almost any motorbike. Okay so a lot of scooters have a handbag storage area under the seat but there's the faux fuel tank on the NC750 so that's not a USP.
But if you're not interested in street cred or the social aspect of motorcycles a scooter would be perfectly fine ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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If you want to filter easily in heavy traffic, try a smaller bike.
Twist-and-go, and remember to keep your legs closed... Sitting there like a dead weight. Where's the fun in that? |
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If all you want is strorage compartements, then I would consider lockable panniers on a regular motorcycle. I find scooters cumbersome. Googling around, those 400cc scooters are quite heavy as well, with rather poor fuel economy. ''Twist 'n' go'' is a benefit of sorts, though. Especially for city traffic.
By the way, there are motorcycles with bigger storage compartments, for instance Honda's NC 700 and NC 750. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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What’s the old saying? Scooters are for men who like to feel the wind in their vagina.
Seriously though, the big ones ain’t too bad and can give slightly more weather protection. I’d rather go for a proper bike with panniers though. ____________________ DILLIGAF |
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Posted: 23:23 - 30 Aug 2021 Post subject: Re: thinking of buying a scooter convince me I'm wrong |
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colinM wrote: | Hi all.
as the title suggests I'm thinking about buying a Scooter, one of those bigger 400cc ones.
My thinking is purely for transport I'll be getting made redundant soon and I have a couple of job opportunities so I'll, unfortunately, have to travel for work now, nothing really far 20-25miles or so.
if I use a scooter I can filter in peak traffic, parking should be easier and there is plenty of storage on the bike for helmet, waterproofs and anything I might have to carry for work (better in the scooter than on my back)
I've never actually driven a scooter though just proper bikes. is my thinking logical or am I missing a very obvious flaw? |
They do ride differently to a 'normal' upright bike, they tend to be closer to cruiser style stuff, because of the feet forward sitting position - takes about 10 minutes to get used to.
I'll do my stuck record impression and relate my similar tale.
I was in a not dissimilar situation to you, 25 mile commute on mixed roads (NSL and heavy traffic) and fed up with it taking literally hours in a car.
I wanted good weather protection, good storage and low maintenance, so I was all set for some flavour of Deauville, until somebody suggested a maxi scooter.
I was extremely sceptical, but I did my research and when the time came to pony up the cash, a Honda 600 Silverwing made itself available first, so I went for it, on the basis that it was cheap enough that if I really didn't get on with it, I could sell it again and not lose anything.
Brilliant, absolutely brilliant, in fact very hard to fault.
You will hear stories of unstable handling, poor performance and a terminal aversion to potholes, amongst other nasty things - mostly these are written by people who have no experience of riding a scooter, beyond some clapped out shitebox on a Greek island.
There is also a very vocal section of biking society that will dismiss them out of hand, with absolutely no knowledge at all, the same sort of blinkered, narrow minded bigots who dismiss cruisers (in general, Harleys in particular) Gold Wings and pretty much anything that doesn't rev to a billion rpm and give you a bad back the instant you get on it - apparently, only the latter can be considered 'real' bikes.
I say, get one if you fancy it, you might just be very pleasantly surprised; the uninformed and uneducated can go and fark themselves. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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Stereotypes are dangerous.
I started out on scooters and small bikes. The first "bike" I ever owned was a 2-stroke 50cc scooter. I commuted on it, in London. At the time, the job seemed great - probably because I had to jump through so many hoops to get it - and the commute was just... the commute. There's no doubt, the scooty was comfy. I even rode it in the winter, in the snow. Did I like it? Yes. I bought no less than THREE C90s following that scooter, because they felt so nice. What they were not, was aesthetic. However, I have most definitely served my time (or my sentence) on scooters (the modern style) and step-throughs.
Many years later, I was still commuting by bike. At first, a small bike. Then I passed my test, and it was a big bike. By this time, I had changed my career., rather drastically The job was one I thought I was cut out for, but I started to hate it, quickly. The one highlight was actually the commute. It was through a picturesque route. B-roads and a fast, nice, wide A-road you could filter through in the rush hour traffic. To this day, I remember some of those commutes. I took detours, and enjoyed even the bad weather. Sometimes there were trees fallen across the road, and sometimes little floods. At that time, I resolved to make up for my weaknesses and deficiencies, and learn as much as I could about motorcycles, so that I could extend my time on motorcycles for as long as I lived, without reliance on others, and with as much freedom to choose what I rode as was possible.
It's been decades since I commuted to work on that scooter. Could I have enjoyed such experiences, and rides, as a commuter on a scooter? I don't think so, truly. Even if it were one of those 400cc Burgman type deals. Go home with as least effort and delay as possible, to eat your spaghetti and repeat the next day? What's the point. Sitting comfortably, and convenience in finding a place to bung your helmet is only worth so much. But, ultimately, it boils down to how I feel. If someone says they feel great riding their scooter, then who am I to second-guess them? However, it's subjective to the point of mysticism. If I see a small-wheeled chunk of plastic coming the other way, I cannot superimpose a positive experience on that. It would upset the view, it would upset my perspective on my personal life story as a human being, because it's so far in the opposite direction of where I'm headed (intrinsic preference for a linear life trajectory rather than a cyclical one). I like classic bikes and I don't like scooters or Harleys, but I don't think I'm ignorant in the slightest. |
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Good point on the scooter vs cruiser similarity in seating. You can go further: the Rebel 1100 for example has a auto gearbox option.
So the choice is between frilly skirts or arse-less chaps ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Posted: 13:27 - 31 Aug 2021 Post subject: Re: thinking of buying a scooter convince me I'm wrong |
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Fat Angry Scotsman wrote: |
When I was at the ASDA in Blantyre on Sunday I met a guy who was on the big Suzuki Burgman Executive scoot and in all honesty until I saw that thing I only ever knew scoots as the little 125cc shit machines. Totally changed my opinion on scoots now, I can see them being fantastic touring machines.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 237 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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