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Danny
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 31 Aug 2021    Post subject: Ceramic coating ? Reply with quote

Has anyone had their bike ceramic coated, if so do you think it's worth it and how much did you pay?

Looking to get my Tiger 800 coated, so far been quoted £429 for an 8-year coating including wash, decontamination and stage 1 polish.
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Zen Dog
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PostPosted: 10:21 - 01 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never even heard of this. What kind of ceramic coating, what bits of the bike do they apply it to exactly? I'm just curious now.
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 01 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would you not be up to doing it yourself ?

Save a lot of cash, if your new to all this stuff can I recommend CarPro Lite, maybe even CarPro CQUK 3.0 if your confident enough
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 01 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's on paintwork. Just avoids the need to wax it for 8 odd years.

Seen it used on a wheelerdealers episode.

I would imagine it's only really any useful for garage queens.
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 01 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
It's on paintwork. Just avoids the need to wax it for 8 odd years.


Oh, cosmetics. Meh.
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PostPosted: 10:48 - 01 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can get exhausts ceramic coated but it's a totally different process (think in terms of glazing on pottery.)

This helps with containing the heat inside the exhaust so for most purposes it's not something most people would bother with.
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PostPosted: 10:50 - 01 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snaikoil?
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BRUN
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PostPosted: 11:00 - 01 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

if your going to coat an exhaust/engine, ideally you want a coating that can cope with some heat, for this maybe go with CarPro DLux
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PostPosted: 11:00 - 01 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wheelerdealers have used both in the past and they aren't really known for promoting snakeoil so I would suggest not.
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PostPosted: 11:21 - 01 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've used Avalon King stuff on my bike, after watching a chase on 2 wheels youtube vid. it definitely works, however preperation is everything.

Think i only paid about £40 with a discount code. Applied it around easter time, so not sure how long it will last, but at the moment its working well.
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 01 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

BRUN wrote:
if your going to coat an exhaust/engine, ideally you want a coating that can cope with some heat, for this maybe go with CarPro DLux



If you are ceramic coating your exhaust it's much more like powdercoating and not a liquid. It's to do an entirely different job.
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 01 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

we must be talking of different things/products

you can apply a ceramic coating, similar to a bodywork one, to engines/exhausts, and its a very similar product to the paintwork stuff, its normally whats used on wheels to handle the heat from the brakes

like this
https://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/carpro-dlux-sealant-kit
or this
https://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/gyeon-q2-rim-coating

if you do look at these coatings and your not used to using them, can i steer you away from KKD R-Evolve, its a bit too much of a heavy duty coating for a beginner to use and you might make a mess of it
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PostPosted: 15:53 - 01 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does it come in a range of attractive colours?
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 01 Sep 2021    Post subject: Re: Ceramic coating ? Reply with quote

A dozen replies and no puns yet?
Danny wrote:
quoted £429

Don’t be a mug.
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 01 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

No takers? More for me then.

My mate took his GSX750F in to have this and some performance mods done. When he got it back it was chipped.
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 01 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
No takers? More for me then.

My mate took his GSX750F in to have this and some performance mods done. When he got it back it was chipped.


Sorry, I glazed over.
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 01 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
No takers? More for me then.

My mate took his GSX750F in to have this and some performance mods done. When he got it back it was chipped.


You can’t just throw jokes like that around.
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 01 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Wheelerdealers have used both in the past and they aren't really known for promoting snakeoil so I would suggest not.


"A ceramic is any of the various hard, brittle, heat-resistant and corrosion-resistant materials made by shaping and then firing an inorganic, nonmetallic material, such as clay, at a high temperature. [1][2] Common examples are earthenware, porcelain, and brick."

Unless they've changed the laws of physics, it's a type of Snaikoil.

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PostPosted: 19:54 - 01 Sep 2021    Post subject: Re: Ceramic coating ? Reply with quote

Danny wrote:
Has anyone had their bike ceramic coated, if so do you think it's worth it and how much did you pay?

Looking to get my Tiger 800 coated, so far been quoted £429 for an 8-year coating including wash, decontamination and stage 1 polish.


About the same cost as a car for about 1% of the paint work....

A fool & their money... Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 02 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

£429

Shocked

You can get kits of the stuff for £10 on ebay....

Save the £429 for a bloody good trip touring! Will give you a hell of a lot more enjoyment than watching water bead off your tank Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:02 - 03 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tdibs wrote:
£429

Shocked

You can get kits of the stuff for £10 on ebay....


But you can't buy the expertise to properly sort the paintwork before application.

I wouldn't pay it, nor do it, but I do know how much of a difference a well trained detailer makes to finish.
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PostPosted: 08:30 - 03 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
Tdibs wrote:
£429

Shocked

You can get kits of the stuff for £10 on ebay....


But you can't buy the expertise to properly sort the paintwork before application.

I wouldn't pay it, nor do it, but I do know how much of a difference a well trained detailer makes to finish.


Watching the beading water and thinking, 'a fiver a bead'. Very Happy

If the labour cost is a chunk of the bill then it may be worth it. But probably only worth it to folk who don't ride on UK winter roads or through our summer rain.
Garage Princesses (Harleys) may be attracted to the process.

Ideally applied to a new machine before customer weathering.
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PostPosted: 12:48 - 03 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much to do a chip pan?
Getting tiled taking a cup brush to the manky bits.
Glaze on my work ye mighty and despair
Nice to potter about on
Hope it doesn't brick it

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PostPosted: 13:25 - 03 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

WD Forte wrote:

Hope it doesn't brick it


That one had me mortar-fied.
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 03 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really common in the car detailing world.

Personally I prefer spending a fraction of the price on a good sealant and applying it once every 2-4 weeks and it will have a similar effect.
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