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PostPosted: 09:43 - 12 Sep 2021    Post subject: White goods. What, where, why..... Reply with quote

My stone age tumble drier finally popped it's mortal coil last night. After about a dozen repairs (total exaggeration of course, maybe 3) the motor is making sparkly bits and the smell of electrical death has permeated the house.

Wifie has left it up to me to replace, probably so she can moan I bought the wrong one. Evil or Very Mad

From what I gather there are 3 types. Vented, condenser and heat pump and they go from £200 up to space shuttle prices.

By then I lost the will to live.

I have zero interest in white goods. I have zero interest in going to Currys to look at white goods or hear some pimply faces 'expert' extorting me to by something with more processing power than Amazons mainframe just to dry clothes. I have zero interest in loading up the car with one,

Being BCF I'm sure there must be some person here with a fetish about tumble driers that can tell me what is good and what isn't. Why I should buy it and where from. etc.

I have a horrible feeling the washing machine will be next as they were bought at the same time. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 12 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

get a spin drier and a clothes horse
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 12 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've got a Bosch Logixx vented dryer. We're trying to work out how old it is, I think it predates 2004. 2 person household, gets used 2-3 times a week, never had any problems with it, just does what it says on the tin. If it died, we'd replace with another Bosch.

As for where from, I'd go with John Lewis - they price match, and you usually get an extra year's warranty over other outlets.
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 12 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have to empty water from a giant bottle thing you have a condenser and may as well go for same again, they give useful heat into the house half the year why vent that outside.
Try Currys and Ao.com they are usually selling the same models with different labels on anyway.
At least they were when I got last fridge freezer.
Ideally get them to take old one away included.
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 12 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put a washing line up. Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 12 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Islander wrote:
Put a washing line up. Laughing


We have one. The blue tits and sparrows park on it waiting their turn at the feeder.
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PostPosted: 15:58 - 12 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

??? Confused Drying clothes is woman’s work, why are you bothering about it?
She owns a hair dryer doesn’t she?, let her use that Thumbs Up


Once again the sage that is Pepperami solves the problem Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:15 - 12 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bosch or Neff (posh Bosch) all day long.
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PostPosted: 16:57 - 12 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I reckon a vented tumble dryer accounts for the majority of my electricity bill but it’s a necessary evil. It’s probably low down in the official efficiency ratings but that means it’s actually applying some drying heat and not just spending hours tumbling clothes in cold air.

You could go full 21st Century retro-with-a-twist and get a heated mangle at a bargain price. Wink

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PostPosted: 17:07 - 12 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:
??? Confused Drying clothes is woman’s work, why are you bothering about it?
She owns a hair dryer doesn’t she?, let her use that Thumbs Up


Once again the sage that is Pepperami solves the problem Thumbs Up


Says the man that let his missus take over his shed... Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 12 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have a heat pump one. We can’t have a vented one as it is located in the middle of the house. We use it a lot (kids) so wanted something that’ll get the job done quickly. It does mean when they fail, if it’s the heat pump side of it that goes there’s little a DIYer can do to fix it (this happened to our last one). It also means mega-money to buy. But it does well - Bosch for us, matches the washing machine.
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 12 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now there's just the two of us in this big 'ole house . . .

It makes much more sense for us to dry our washing on the several clothes horses that occupy a spare bedroom & block my access to the cubby hole.

Sit a de-humidifier amongst them & let battle commence. Much, MUCH cheaper than a tumble drier.
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 12 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

What sort was your old tumble dryer? Vented, condenser, etc. Is the dryer in the house, garage, extension, shed? How damp is it where you live?

For example, I've had two vented tumble dryers. First was in a flat, in the kitchen - bread went mouldy within days Sad 2nd is outside in a shed so how good it is at venting is neither here nor there.

Oh and lots of stuff is much better dried au naturel. Shake out a damp T-shirt and hang it up: cost-free, no ironing required Smile
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 12 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tumble dryers are the devil. Cost a bomb to run no.matter what science they employ.
I have a Bosch condenser.
Supposed high efficiency.
Not used much, only in emergency.
Even though they condense they still produce a lot of humid air so a window should be left open to vent.

Another thing, some condensers use the cold tap water to cool/condense the humid dryer air.
I think mine's uses magic coz it's not connected to a cold tap supply.

I think the condenser device is a fan cooled element.

Move to the Sahara desert.
Two or four poles sunk in the sand.
Clothes line.
Bag of pegs.
Your shite will be bone dry within 20 - 25 minutes after hanging out.
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 12 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:


Oh and lots of stuff is much better dried au naturel. Shake out a damp T-shirt and hang it up: cost-free, no ironing required Smile


Not everyone can hang stuff outside but it's good apart from all the days when it isn't.
Similarly hanging stuff over radiators or in a little used room or corner works Ok unless heating isn't on and some houses are damp enough without adding to it.
So it's a very useful thing to have especially if something is needed quickly because you forgot to put it in the day before Doh! Silence

Ours doesn't get used more than about once a month and amazingly it's the only one we ever bought in about 2000.

At the time there was a cat allowed in the house and it was scared to death of it Laughing
But eventually she liked to sit on it because some heat came up the back (condenser type)
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 12 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I havent got a dryer, and havent had a clothesline for years.
I just hang em on the doors, radiators, backs of chairs, clothes hangers over the bath.

Much like dishwashers, I'm never quite sure how to use a clothes dryer properly, cos I don't own them often enough for it to become routine.

I'd like to go back to pegging clothes out on the line.
I like hanging out in the garden with clothes flapping.

On the subject of other white goods, my microwave died about a month ago. But I spent a week (dogsitting) in a foodie house where there wasn't one, so now I am not bothered about getting one again.
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 12 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I generate a lot of dirty clothes and my garden is in shade for 6 months of the year. Got a beko heat-pump drier 10 years ago. Worked out that the break-even point in terms of saving in electricity useage vs the extra cost was about 5 years so I'm quids-in.

It's worked flawlessly, doesn't make the room all humid (it gives off some heat but not much). I plumbed in the drain into a T-piece on the washing machine drain so i don't need to empty the reservoir thingy. It knocks itself off when it detects the load is dry so rarely does the full cycle, you set the dryness setting to iron dry (slightly damp), cupboard dry (normal dryness) or extra dry (shrunk). So it's stayed ont he same setting throughout.

Totally happy with my purchase.

An eco consultant guy who came round to do a thermal survey on our house said one of the most energy efficient ways if you can't dry outside is to set up a line/clothes horse in a small room with a dehumidifier.
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PostPosted: 11:15 - 13 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
What sort was your old tumble dryer? Vented, condenser, etc. Is the dryer in the house, garage, extension, shed? How damp is it where you live?

For example, I've had two vented tumble dryers. First was in a flat, in the kitchen - bread went mouldy within days Sad 2nd is outside in a shed so how good it is at venting is neither here nor there.

Oh and lots of stuff is much better dried au naturel. Shake out a damp T-shirt and hang it up: cost-free, no ironing required Smile


My old one is a vented ancient Zanussi located in the kitchen so already have a hole in the wall. No damp problems.
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 14 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know we are talking about tumble dryers, but I’ll just leave this here Thumbs Up
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dq6T5BojXc8

Childish yes! Still funny Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 14 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:
Tumble dryers are the devil. Cost a bomb to run no.matter what science they employ.
I have a Bosch condenser.
Supposed high efficiency.
Not used much, only in emergency.
Even though they condense they still produce a lot of humid air so a window should be left open to vent.

Another thing, some condensers use the cold tap water to cool/condense the humid dryer air.
I think mine's uses magic coz it's not connected to a cold tap supply.

I think the condenser device is a fan cooled element.

Move to the Sahara desert.
Two or four poles sunk in the sand.
Clothes line.
Bag of pegs.
Your shite will be bone dry within 20 - 25 minutes after hanging out.
That's why women love Arab men.


Agree with this, I have a cheap condenser dryer but it never gets used except in emergency. I use a spin dryer because no matter how good your washing machine is, it will never spin as fast as a spin dryer. Spin dry then put it on a clothes horse works for me if it can't go out on the line (i.e. raining).
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PostPosted: 12:39 - 14 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drying clothes? I've go no idea how the damn things get washed, let alone dried in Che Nobby. They just turn up in the drawers and wardrobe clean and dry.
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PostPosted: 12:43 - 14 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:
I know we are talking about tumble dryers, but I’ll just leave this here Thumbs Up
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dq6T5BojXc8

Childish yes! Still funny Laughing


I laughed Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 14 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Drying clothes? I've go no idea how the damn things get washed, let alone dried in Che Nobby. They just turn up in the drawers and wardrobe clean and dry.


Nobby, is this you? Laughing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_kXIGvB1uU
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 14 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just read through this whole thread (but not every link) and feel empty and confused... Why FFS, Why??

I've never owned nor contemplated a drier.
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PostPosted: 15:44 - 14 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:
I know we are talking about tumble dryers, but I’ll just leave this here Thumbs Up
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dq6T5BojXc8

Childish yes! Still funny Laughing


LMAO! The White Goods equivalent of the exploding clown car. Should be de rigueur for anyone wanting to tumble dry all the towels in the house at the same time... my dryer's on its third belt BTW Rolling Eyes
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