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PostPosted: 15:39 - 17 Sep 2021    Post subject: The age of consent and other things......... Reply with quote

I must admit I am totally gobsmacked with what is acceptable and what isn't at what age nowadays.

We have adulthood set at 18 at present yet we have the age of consent at 16 (and lets be honest, some girls under that can pass for well over) and then having the right to have birth control from their GP without parents knowledge. We have Labour wanting to lower the voting age to 16 or even 14.

Then we have people who say someone like Begum was a groomed child because the age of being an adult is 18 and others saying that someone at 15 knows right from wrong and should have to answer for their decisions.

Now we have this which is what basically mad me write this thread. Ruling limiting under-16s puberty blockers overturned So basically, if I have read it right, any CHILD can go and ask for these drugs to stop puberty while they decide what the fuck they want to be without telling their parents. Madness in my view but hey, I'm a dinosaur and kids grow up quick nowadays.

Now there are arguments for each end every decision but should we finally come up with an age that everything changes at, be it 14, 16, 18 or whatever. Before that age you are a child and your parents make all decisions for you. After that age you are an adult, treated like one with all the plusses and minuses adulthood brings. Votes, drink, crime and punishment, sex. 1 age for everything.

It just seems nowadays it's totally unhelpful for everyone with the what, where, when and this ruling to me is just a step further down the path to the bog of eternal ̶s̶t̶e̶n̶c̶h̶ confusion.

Or just say anyone can do whatever they like with or to their body at any age.

I'm glad my kids have grown up.

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PostPosted: 16:02 - 17 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

The one and only reason Labour want to lower the voting age is because it is easy to dress up leftist 'ideals' as attractive for younger people who have no wisdom. Tell a youngster they can have everything for free and of course they'll go for that rather than learning to be responsible for their own lives.

Part of the idea of the voting age being higher was that it was more likely you'd be paying taxes, so you ought to have some say in how they're spent. However, I think the voting age should be higher if anything - maybe 25. Just reduce taxes for those under voting age.

Lefties just crave power, regardless of the damage they do on their way to it.
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 17 Sep 2021    Post subject: Re: The age of consent and other things......... Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
I'm glad my kids have grown up

Tell me about it...

I read an article in The Times this week about Carrie and David Grant (he of 80s pop band Linx and apparently 'Songs of Praise' (The whole article is here, FWIW, but is behind a paywall).

So this pair have 4 kids. I quote:

Carrie Grant wrote:
"The three oldest were born girls; now all are 'trans/non-binary'. Olive Gray, the oldest, is 26 and non-binary," says Carrie. "Olive uses the pronouns they/them. Nineteen-year-old Tylan [a star in the Channel 4 soap Hollyoaks] is non-binary masculine, and uses the pronouns they/he so that is quite a big change. Our third child, who is 15, is currently called Arlo. They are non-binary — they would say they are a demigirl. Arlo has gone through, ‘I want to be a boy’, then it was, ‘No, I am not a boy, I am a lesbian’. The lesbian thing remained but the gender thing changed. Arlo is now a demigirl, someone who does not feel female. “Arlo was called Mae for two years until a month ago but their name at birth was Imogen. Tylan used to be called Talia. Olivia is now Olive. All of them really hate what they call their ‘dead names’."


I mean, WT actual F??
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 17 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of it is down to what other people are allowed to do to their bodies.

For example, an under age girl can get birth control because she could be fucking an under age boy. Fact of life. Better off giving them birth control than turn completely puritan and not allow opposite sexes.to meet.

If anyone over 18 is fucking her they are breaking the law.
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 17 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I recall, the age at which you can give and withdraw consent for a medical procedure is six.
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 17 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is all to add the "P" to "LBGTQ" instead of hiding it in the "+" Neutral
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 17 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
As I recall, the age at which you can give and withdraw consent for a medical procedure is six.


There seems to be some controversy over overriding parental consent regarding the Covid vaccines?
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 17 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
A lot of it is down to what other people are allowed to do to their bodies.

For example, an under age girl can get birth control because she could be fucking an under age boy. Fact of life. Better off giving them birth control than turn completely puritan and not allow opposite sexes.to meet.

If anyone over 18 is fucking her they are breaking the law.


so you think its better to encourage children to be promiscuous whores than raise them with some morals. interesting.
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 17 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. I just recognise that 14 year olds will fuck other 14 year old and that it's better that they have birth control rather than ruin their lives by having babies.

I know what I was doing at that age. If you refuse to accept this reality you are either a liar or probably still a virgin.
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 17 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

And my morality isn't based around sex btw. It's about causing harm to others and trying to avoid it.

Promiscuity is such a misogynistic and homophobic term. It's only ever used against women and gays.
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 17 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
No. I just recognise that 14 year olds will fuck other 14 year old and that it's better that they have birth control rather than ruin their lives by having babies.

I know what I was doing at that age. If you refuse to accept this reality you are either a liar or probably still a virgin.


you said "Better off giving them birth control than turn completely puritan and not allow opposite sexes.to meet."

i find that quite distasteful to be honest and i would far rather segregate children than have them "fucking" like whores.
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 17 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long have you been a member of the taliban?
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 17 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:


Promiscuity is such a misogynistic and homophobic term. It's only ever used against women and gays.


What absolute bollocks.
You're making sure you score all your sjw virtue points aren't you? Where is the pressure coming from? Your missus? Your workplace? Don't you miss being allowed to think for yourself?
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 17 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
How long have you been a member of the taliban?


did you sit on Jimmy Saviles knee when you were a boy?
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 17 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

So now you are suggesting that I'm a paedophile?

How old were you when you had your first sexual experience? Have you had it yet?
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 17 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
And my morality isn't based around sex btw. It's about causing harm to others and trying to avoid it.


Can words be harmful? Can they be intended to cause harm?
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 17 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they incite other people to violence, definitely.

Other situations could as well,.
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 17 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
So now you are suggesting that I'm a paedophile?

How old were you when you had your first sexual experience? Have you had it yet?


just throwing out insults like you nobby.
you have an odd fixation with sex.
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 17 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like sex. I'm not scared of it. I also don't base my opinion on other people.based on their sexuality or how many people they've fucked.
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 17 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
I like sex. I'm not scared of it. I also don't base my opinion on other people.based on their sexuality or how many people they've fucked.


then why are you asking me about my sexual encounters?
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 17 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
If they incite other people to violence, definitely.

Other situations could as well,.


In what other situations can words be harmful, aside from inciting violence?
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 17 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

The questions are so you consider your.own opinions. I couldn't give a fuck about your experiences outside of the fact that you have no idea what the real world is like.

I'm not talking sexual offenses. Kids will play doctors and nurses.

Then it's kiss chase.

Then it's consenting sex.

If you don't get.that you are so far away from reality it's untrue.[/list]
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 17 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
If they incite other people to violence, definitely.

Other situations could as well,.


In what other situations can words be harmful, aside from inciting violence?


the pen is mightier than the sword as they say.
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 17 Sep 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:

In what other situations can words be harmful, aside from inciting violence?


When they are a religious text and millions of people follow them despite being written when science was in it's infancy.
When they are used by a violent person against their partner.
When they are used out of context in a court or similar.
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Nobby the Bastard wrote:
The questions are so you consider your.own opinions. I couldn't give a fuck about your experiences outside of the fact that you have no idea what the real world is like.

I'm not talking sexual offenses. Kids will play doctors and nurses.

Then it's kiss chase.

Then it's consenting sex.

If you don't get.that you are so far away from reality it's untrue.[/list]


yes i understand that children have become sexualised and i dread to think what effect internet porn is having on their young minds.

that doesnt mean that i condone it or approve of it.
society has gone down the Swannie and i often think id be happier out of it.

i reckon the Amish are on to something.
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