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Posted: 20:47 - 19 Oct 2021 Post subject: Will a FZ6 reg/rec work on a Street Triple? |
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So, the bike wouldn't start tonight but after a good charge it did. Checked the volts and it's not charging, just steadily dropping. Have ordered a new reg/rec but won't arrive till Friday. Borrowing a bike for tomorrow's commute, but can only use it tomorrow.
So, i was wondering....could i nick the reg/rec off the dormant FZ6, just to get me to work for a couple of days? Or would the electric fairies have an issue with that?
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Posted: 19:17 - 20 Oct 2021 Post subject: |
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No, it can't be that.
As in, yes, it might be that, but they're over £300 new...so it can't be that.
Oh, FFS. Really? I know there were problems with Triumph's reg/rec's, so i just assumed it was that. I'll have to pull the r/r out and test it and see, i guess. ____________________ A Guide To Powerbands |
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Posted: 16:33 - 21 Oct 2021 Post subject: |
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Time to get the multimeter out.
I had a mate change his striple regrec, battery. Didn't fix it, had to take it to Triumph and they changed the stator and burnt out wiring. It's quite a common failure point, so much so that non standard rewinds are done to prevent it going again.
E.g. https://www.westcountrywindings.co.uk/ have knowledge about this issue, and would be cheaper to repair than oem replacement.
On his bike it would run, then cut out, dash went mental then it would need recharging. ____________________
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Posted: 21:55 - 21 Oct 2021 Post subject: |
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The good news is, i now have a spare rectifier! Bad news is....it isn't the rectifier
So, looking somewhat disapprovingly at the stator now. I'll take it out tomorrow night and see if there's anything obviously wrong, and in the meantime find out how to test it, but at least i've got a spare reg/rec in case that was what caused it.
Oh well. ____________________ A Guide To Powerbands |
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Posted: 14:56 - 24 Oct 2021 Post subject: |
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Ok, i've tested the stator...open circuits between terminals and battery negative...so all good. Tested between the stator terminals...all low values...so all good too.
Tested the output while running...and nothing. Maybe 0.01v but that's it.
Pulled the stator cover off, and the stator looks fine. Looks like it's got a bit warm at some point, but otherwise looks ok.
https://www.planetash.net/bcf/stator/stator.jpg
Also, managed to connect TuneECU and checked two error codes;
P1968 Sensor 5v supply error
P0705 Transmission range error
Not sure if there are just a result of whatever the problem is, or if they're related somehow.
The important thing is though is that there's no AC voltage coming out of the stator, but i'm buggered if i can figure out why
EDIT: Just realised i'd checked the output with the multimeter on the DC setting. Once i put it on AC (as per pic) the terminals register 0.3 - 0.7 and 1.4
Is that good? Is that what it's supposed to be?
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Posted: 16:43 - 24 Oct 2021 Post subject: |
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Hong Kong Phooey wrote: | ^ reset codes in tuneecu, if codes come back after your charging issue is fixed then check them out. |
They haven't come back in the shortish time i had it running.
Quote: | Presume you are testing ac volts, not dc by mistake, |
At first i was testing DC, until i realised it was the wrong setting.
xX-Alex-Xx wrote: | Were you testing between the terminals and ground, or the terminals to different terminals? |
The 0.3, 0.7 and 1.4 readings were between the three terminals and ground. I don't think i checked between terminals (other than the resistance tests, which were fine) as i thought they'd all be + , or the same polarity at least, so they wouldn't be making a circuit..?
Hong Kong Phooey wrote: | AC volts is normally 20-50, so no f. good. Get it rewound, or chance a second hand unit. |
I've already ordered a new stator which should arrive on Tuesday. I'll swap it out when it's here and try again.
Oh, that westcountrywindings site you suggested doesn't appear to work, btw. Just says it's not secure and won't load. Tried it on Firefox too..same thing. ____________________ A Guide To Powerbands
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Try https://www.westcountrywindings.co.uk/applications.php if you need it in future, hopefully not!
(http, not https - seems http links posted here are converted to https) ____________________
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 172 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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