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PostPosted: 17:57 - 03 Nov 2021    Post subject: Chain cleaning and lubrication Reply with quote

I don't know what the long term effects of this are on the x-rings in my chain, but after trying to use some Muc Off degreaser spray and getting in about it for a hot minute with an Amazon special brush I used some methanol and a stiff toothbrush followed by acetone and a stiff toothbrush to get most of the grease and gunk off the chain.

Then went at it with the Muc Off chain cleaner spray and a nail brush followed with a final wipe down with a clean rag. Looked like it got it pretty clean.

Then lubed it with Muc Off Wet Weather chain lube.

So does anyone know if I just knackered the x-rings in the chain or if they are resilient enough for this cleaning method?

Does having an automatic oiler help reduce the amount of cleaning needed?
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 03 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acetone? Hahahahahaha.
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PostPosted: 18:03 - 03 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Acetone? Hahahahahaha.


Not good? I thought it would be alright since it evaporates off quickly and wasn't going on any of the fairings Embarassed
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 03 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah that'll fuck the O rings.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSV8P9NLoccZcyNWw74bsX4B80S6JqFNMp1Pw&usqp=CAU

Kerosene and engine oil - 3 to 1 mix. Cleans and lubes the chain in one hit.
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PostPosted: 18:07 - 03 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

xX-Alex-Xx wrote:
Yeah that'll fuck the O rings.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSV8P9NLoccZcyNWw74bsX4B80S6JqFNMp1Pw&usqp=CAU

Kerosene and engine oil - 3 to 1 mix. Cleans and lubes the chain in one hit.


Is doing it once enough to knacker the chain though? Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 18:25 - 03 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't have thought so TBH.
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 03 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acetone is a very powerful solvent. Solvents are used to dissolve things. The reason it evaporates is because its a solvent....
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 03 Nov 2021    Post subject: Re: Chain cleaning and lubrication Reply with quote

Fat Angry Scotsman wrote:
Does having an automatic oiler help reduce the amount of cleaning needed?

Does for me. Quick brush with paraffin, wipe off with a rag, a little oiling and sorted. Every 2-3 months/1000 miles. Chain still in good nick after 12,000 miles.
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 03 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

This year, i am mostly doing my chain with used sump oil and a paintbrush then wiping the excess off with a rag.
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PostPosted: 20:45 - 03 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll just stick to chainsaw oil in the scotoiler and leave any necessary washing to the rain and spray off the road.
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 03 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven’t cleaned a chain in years unless you count riding in the rain. 90w gear oil brushed on so infrequently I couldn’t tell you. Remove the excess with a rag and ride. 30k+ easily on an R1.
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PostPosted: 00:06 - 04 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acetone and a very clean light oil can make ghetto penetrating fluid.

So they say.
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PostPosted: 00:39 - 04 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mysteriass wrote:
Acetone and a very clean light oil can make ghetto penetrating fluid.

So they say.


It does, it's excellent for penetrating stuck metal fasteners.

However it also dissolves all sorts of plastic and rubbers. Including viton. Which I'm pretty sure is what the sealing rings in motorcycle chains are made of. It wil in fact fully dissolve viton until it is a liquid.
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PostPosted: 01:25 - 04 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cleaned something up once (a crank case cover or the like) just prior to painting so I thought I'd degrease with acetone... it dissolved the fucking rag!
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PostPosted: 09:27 - 04 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use acetone for dissolving plastics when I’m making up plastic gloop , for when I’m doing fairing repairs.
I certainly wouldn’t put it on my chain Shocked !

Hey ho, lesson learnt.

Wire brush and an oily rag to clean the dirt & bogies off.
And a careful squirt with chain-lube after.
I like chain-lube in an aerosol can because it’s so easy to apply.
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PostPosted: 09:34 - 04 Nov 2021    Post subject: Re: Chain cleaning and lubrication Reply with quote

Mr Hammers wrote:
Fat Angry Scotsman wrote:
Does having an automatic oiler help reduce the amount of cleaning needed?

Does for me. Quick brush with paraffin, wipe off with a rag, a little oiling and sorted. Every 2-3 months/1000 miles. Chain still in good nick after 12,000 miles.


Now see , I’ve got one of those hanging up in the garage.
I just can’t seem to get those damm things right.
When I tried using it , it would either dispense so little that I’d end up with a dry chain OR my back wheel would be black and fecking covered in oil Shocked
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 04 Nov 2021    Post subject: Re: Chain cleaning and lubrication Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:

When I tried using it , it would either dispense so little that I’d end up with a dry chain OR my back wheel would be black and fecking covered in oil Shocked


What oil were you using? Were you adjusting it for the ambient temperature as well?
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 04 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:

Wire brush and an oily rag to clean the dirt & bogies off.
And a careful squirt with chain-lube after.
I like chain-lube in an aerosol can because it’s so easy to apply.


Let's imagine what happens when you brush a rubber o-ring with a wire brush....

One of those plastic washing up brushes does a decent job, the handle keeps the yack off your hands.

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When I tried using it , it would either dispense so little that I’d end up with a dry chain OR my back wheel would be black and fecking covered in oil


Once they are fitted, you should do a drip count onto a piece of paper with the engine idling to set the correct level. 2-3 drips per minute is usually fine. The drips don't change with rev speed, it's either on or off.
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PostPosted: 11:40 - 04 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait so the consensus is mostly that nobody here really really cleans off the chain? I am being an absolute plonk and trying to get the cunting thing as close to shiny again as possible.

I am definitely going to invest in a scotoiler or the gravity oiler thing someone put up a while ago.
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 04 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fat Angry Scotsman wrote:
I am being an absolute plonk and trying to get the cunting thing as close to shiny again as possible.


Probably.. it doesn't hurt to get rid of the clumps on the outside but that's not really the business end of things, if you think about it. If you must, then as others have said use a light oil for cleaning - paraffin, diesel, wd40 type stuff (never WD40 itself - too dear Wink), white spirit etc.. then wipe/drip on your favourite lube - like Stinkers I use an old soap bottle with a nozzle.
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 04 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fundamentally the chain along with the sprockets are consumable items. Cleaning and lubricating extends the life but such parts will eventually be replaced. No need to go too mad at it Smile
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 04 Nov 2021    Post subject: Re: Chain cleaning and lubrication Reply with quote

xX-Alex-Xx wrote:
pepperami wrote:

When I tried using it , it would either dispense so little that I’d end up with a dry chain OR my back wheel would be black and fecking covered in oil Shocked


What oil were you using? Were you adjusting it for the ambient temperature as well?


Actually Embarassed Embarassed , some oily greasy old crack that was living on my shed shelf Embarassed Embarassed , I have no idea.
Could possibly have been old chain-saw oil!
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 04 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is what I meant about having to ask BCF about every single bastard thing. It makes you look autistic and annoying.
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 04 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

redeem ouzzer wrote:
This is what I meant about having to ask BCF about every single bastard thing. It makes you look autistic and annoying.


To be fair he did need guidance in this case!

I have never cleaned a chain. I just make sure they are lubricated. I have been known to wipe them with a rag occasionally, that's it.
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 04 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

redeem ouzzer wrote:
This is what I meant about having to ask BCF about every single bastard thing. It makes you look autistic and annoying.


So not sexy and alluring then? Bugger.

While you're here, when you do a dump do you wipe your arse then stand up or stand up and then wipe your arse?
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