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I made sure to go watch that one on the big screen.
You get a lot more from it having read the book.
I thought the character of Jessica in the film was a bit pathetic.
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Freddyfruitbat wrote: | Saw it the other night... not normally my sort of thing but did enjoy it.
I knew nothing of the books or story beforehand and think I missed a fair bit of plot because of that. But can someone tell me why these incredibly advanced civilisations zoom around the universe in rocket ships and then fight each other with swords and spears?
And what's the deal with the dodgy ReadyBrek 'central heating for kids' electronic suit which works sometimes but not others?
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You've answered your own question. The Holtzmann shields deflect anything and everything, except personal ones which are set up differently. If they blocked everything they would also block air and would suffocate the user. They are configured to allow anything slower than 6cm per second through, to allow air molecules to penetrate. This means that they are impervious to projectile weaponry. Lasguns work on them too, but if a lasgun using the Holtzmann effect hits a shield it causes a nuclear level explosion, either in the shield wearer, along the beam or in the lasgun itself.
So, the only weapon you can use is a bladed one. Preferably a shorter blade so it can be repositioned easily for a killing blow.
This is explained in the line "The slow blade penetrates the shield". It also explains why Paul doesn't immediately kill Jamis, because all of his training has been fast in defence but slow in attack. In the desert you can't use shields because it calls a worm, so Jamis has never fought in such a way. It's also why the Fremen carry guns, and why the Sardaukar use a lasgun to open the sealed door after Duncan dies.
I think there might be a mistake in the film because I believe the Harkonnens or the Sardaukar use a lasgun against Duncan when he's flying the Ornithopter. Luckily they miss. Maybe they don't care about triggering nuclear explosions? Or maybe ship based Lasguns don't have that problem?
I know that Atomics are also outlawed for use against other humans, and if anyone was to use one, all the great houses would rise up against the user and destroy them. It seems they all keep a huge stockpile of atomics though, just in case they ever meet any aliens.
They also don't use computers or robots because basically skynet happened, and a religious war started which destroyed all the 'thinking machines'.
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Ah OK, thanks. Missed that (dialogue wasn't brilliantly clear at the cinema TBH).
What about when Paul was play-fighting with Josh Brolin near the start, and the shields lit up red to denote a lethal blow? Weren't the shields protecting the users from blades then? ____________________ KC100->CB100N->CB250RS--------->DL650AL2->R1200RS->R1250RS |
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I quite liked it. It did a good job of "filming the unfilmable" but is it up there with the first Lord of the Rings trilogy? I'd have to see the next ones.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 167 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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