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flyingcbf
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 10 Nov 2021    Post subject: Most reliable and easy to work on Adventure Bike Reply with quote

Hi Chaps,
any ideas on an adventure bike that's easy to work on and reliable? Deciding between GS1200 and Africa Twin. Or something else entirely?
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PostPosted: 10:08 - 10 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've actually been watching a video on youtube: https://youtu.be/UA0X6bmT3rE

Seems this bike is easy to work with regards to valve adjustment.
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PostPosted: 10:15 - 10 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would expect the BMW would be easier to work out on out those two, not that either should require a great amount of work. Should be mostly still in the realm of annual servicing, not old/fucked enough to need a lot of fixing.

I would also consider Guzzi V85, simply because I like Guzzis and it's what I would go for if it had to be an adventure bike.

Something does seem a little off about both your recent posts, are you learning about spannering on fairly new, expensive and complex bikes? If so, this is not a good way to save money. Most of us that can spanner learnt to do so on cheap old bikes, generally out of necessity as broke young people. We learnt by making mistakes, I doubt I'm the only one here that undertook pointless, invasive work on a bike to fix a simple problem elsewhere - like rebuilding an engine when the problem was water in the carb - and ruined the engine in the process.

If your major outlay on servicing is taking it to a shop once a year for a service, then it will a long time before it's cost effective to do it all yourself. You need to buy tools, you need lots of time, and you will break things.

My cheapest bike to own is the one I bought brand new that goes to the main dealer once a year for its service.
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 10 Nov 2021    Post subject: Re: Most reliable and easy to work on Adventure Bike Reply with quote

flyingcbf wrote:
Hi Chaps,
any ideas on an adventure bike that's easy to work on and reliable? Deciding between GS1200 and Africa Twin.
Or something else entirely?


Something else entirely.

https://i.pinimg.com/550x/a2/f4/7a/a2f47ae044cbaf0974d5a83df8361d6b.jpg
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 10 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

R1200GS

Less things to break.

And most stuff is hanging out in mid air so has the easiest access to its testicles.
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 10 Nov 2021    Post subject: Re: Most reliable and easy to work on Adventure Bike Reply with quote

A100man wrote:
flyingcbf wrote:
Hi Chaps,
any ideas on an adventure bike that's easy to work on and reliable? Deciding between GS1200 and Africa Twin.
Or something else entirely?


Something else entirely.

https://i.pinimg.com/550x/a2/f4/7a/a2f47ae044cbaf0974d5a83df8361d6b.jpg


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PostPosted: 12:29 - 10 Nov 2021    Post subject: Re: Most reliable and easy to work on Adventure Bike Reply with quote

A100man wrote:
flyingcbf wrote:
Hi Chaps,
any ideas on an adventure bike, Or something else entirely?


Something else entirely.

https://i.pinimg.com/550x/a2/f4/7a/a2f47ae044cbaf0974d5a83df8361d6b.jpg


Shocked I am liking your thinking Thumbs Up .
Just a tiny smidgen excessive with the luggage don’t you think?.

And there is me thinking that my 250 might struggle with me and some camping gear Laughing .
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 10 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about the Enfield Hymalayn?
Not the most exciting bike in the world , but relatively simple bike.
Can’t be that hard to work on.
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 10 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

2t's even simpler maintenance.. Cool
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PostPosted: 13:05 - 10 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:
What about the Enfield Hymalayn?


The OP specified 'reliable'... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 10 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

flyingcbf wrote:
I've actually been watching a video on youtube: https://youtu.be/UA0X6bmT3rE

Seems this bike is easy to work with regards to valve adjustment.


Screw and lock-nut - how quaint..

Easy to adjust, easy to fall out of adjustment.
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 10 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are talking about reliability, I don't think there is a main stream modern adventure bike I would worry about reliability with. Modern bikes are up there with modern cars for that.

If you are talking about repairability after you chuck your adventure bike off a mountain, well that's a completely different story and perhaps the opposit of what you would get when going for reliability.

For that reason I'd probably go with the Enfield and carry a hammer, screwdrive and adjustable in my toolkit.
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 10 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
If you are talking about reliability, I don't think there is a main stream modern adventure bike I would worry about reliability with. Modern bikes are up there with modern cars for that.

If you are talking about repairability after you chuck your adventure bike off a mountain, well that's a completely different story and perhaps the opposit of what you would get when going for reliability.

For that reason I'd probably go with the Enfield and carry a hammer, screwdrive and adjustable in my toolkit.


I'd sooner have the C90.
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PostPosted: 15:38 - 10 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

A100man wrote:
Polarbear wrote:
If you are talking about reliability, I don't think there is a main stream modern adventure bike I would worry about reliability with. Modern bikes are up there with modern cars for that.

If you are talking about repairability after you chuck your adventure bike off a mountain, well that's a completely different story and perhaps the opposit of what you would get when going for reliability.

For that reason I'd probably go with the Enfield and carry a hammer, screwdrive and adjustable in my toolkit.


I'd sooner have the C90.


You're probably right. Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 10 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enfield- Easy to work on.

Africa Twin- Doesn't need to be worked on.

KTM - Shitshow.
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 10 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats the intended use of the bike? To do offroading or road miles/general touring?
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 11 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easiest to work on is probably the v85tt. I'm seriously considering one for they reason, plus it looks quirky and fun. Just not sure it has enough power for what I want.

The Africa Twin will likely be more reliable than the GS but an arse to work on. Honda like to make things awkward. Actually that's one of the reasons I'm moving on from my crossrunner. Love how the bike rides. Frustrates the life out of my working on it.

Ha probably a bit easier to work on but not as guaranteed reliable. Lots of horror stories and parts are pricey.

Having said that, if the V85 thing doesn't work out I'll likely end up on a GS or an 890 adventure (easy to work on but plenty of reliability horrors).
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 11 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont know if I would class any of the modern crop as easy to work on. Really you are getting into OBD/laptop tuning past basic maintenance.

Easy to work on is DR650/XT600/XL600. Big single with few other components. Very bodgeable after throwing it on its side a good few times on the lanes.
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PostPosted: 08:13 - 12 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

OBD

BMW you need a GS911 unit there not cheap around £500!

Honda, you need an adaptor lead £12 and an Android phone or tablet with an app most are about £15 !

Yes I work on both! but since the demise of the Air Head I would not own a BMW ! Not that unreliable just bloody expensive to fix

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PostPosted: 08:52 - 12 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having just replaced the shaft drive on a BMW Adventure, they are bloody expensive, just done the tyre sensors, only the cost of a battery and a bit of time. Bits even second hand are expensive.
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 12 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

After considering those posts, I think I'll keep away from BMW then... Was thinking of it.
So it's either NX750 DCT or Africa Twin.

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PostPosted: 10:29 - 12 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
Having just replaced the shaft drive on a BMW Adventure, they are bloody expensive, just done the tyre sensors, only the cost of a battery and a bit of time. Bits even second hand are expensive.


https://www.james-sherlock.co.uk/

The outfit break beemurs.

He sells non OEM supplied spares too.

Waaaay less expensive than BMW Bastirts.
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 12 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:
Skudd wrote:
Having just replaced the shaft drive on a BMW Adventure, they are bloody expensive, just done the tyre sensors, only the cost of a battery and a bit of time. Bits even second hand are expensive.


https://www.james-sherlock.co.uk/

The outfit break beemurs.

He sells non OEM supplied spares too.

Waaaay less expensive than BMW Bastirts.


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PostPosted: 10:50 - 12 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:
Skudd wrote:
Having just replaced the shaft drive on a BMW Adventure, they are bloody expensive, just done the tyre sensors, only the cost of a battery and a bit of time. Bits even second hand are expensive.


https://www.james-sherlock.co.uk/

The outfit break beemurs.

He sells non OEM supplied spares too.

Waaaay less expensive than BMW Bastirts.


That's a useful link Thumbs Up

This lot break BMWs and sell second hand and new parts too (and also non-OEM). I think the last proper BMW dealers I bought from were in the 80s Laughing

https://www.motorworks.co.uk/vlive/Home/index.php
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PostPosted: 10:51 - 12 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Links like these should be a sticky to help those owners of beamers.
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