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Rooz12
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 23 Nov 2021    Post subject: Keeway superlight 125 project advice needed Reply with quote

Hi,

I've receny bought a keeway superlight 125 on ebay as a project.

I've been ripped off and I know it but now I'm left with an absolute junk to work with.

It was a false advertisement and I got some refund.

Basically, when it got it delivered, everything on the bike was loose and disconnected.

I have no idea why the seller has done this to the bike but it is what it is now.

I'm now trying to connect the fuel tank so I can check if the engine is working at all. However, when I look under the tank, I see 2 connection points?

I've attached a few pictures so someone can see and advice on this.

I have also attached a couple of other pictures as I don't have a clue what those are.

I hope someone can advice on this issue.


Pic of the tank:
https://imgur.com/qAGekkX

Picture of unknown. What Is this? it has 2 broken hoses sticking out of it!
https://imgur.com/Vxh8wfF

what is this? is this related to the image above?
https://imgur.com/spk9xwk

Finally, what is this?
https://imgur.com/ZLzcEFS
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Rooz12
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PostPosted: 18:13 - 23 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone?
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 23 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know anything about this bike model- but I know that's not a carb. Bike is fuel injected. Some of the gubbins under the tank will therefore be fuel pump.
The second pic looks lik it might be a filter. Hopefully someone else has a better reference..
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 23 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking g at the first picture, the one on the left looks like a breather with a small one way valve next to it.

The one on the right should go to the injection.
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 23 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last picture fuel pump and injection system.
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 23 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

CARB?
You aint got no carb
You don need no stinkin carb!

1
https://i.imgur.com/qAGekkX.jpeg9

2
https://i.imgur.com/Vxh8wfF.jpeg

3
https://i.imgur.com/spk9xwk.jpeg

4
https://i.imgur.com/ZLzcEFS.jpeg
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WD Forte
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 23 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

1
top right outlet to INJECTOR!!! not carb
top left, dunno mebbe filter or tank balancing pump?
bottom cable+plug fuel level sender
2
looks like an AIS filter , dont really need it
3
dunno need context
4
Of course it connects to the tank
how are you going to get fuel to the engine if it doesn'tnt?
see pic 1.
What twat cut the fuel lines?
That little brass pipe goes to the AIS thingy, not needed, you can block it off
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WD Forte
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 23 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope it was cheap btw

I'll give you points for attempting to add pics but
they're too feckin big!
resize them to say a max of 1024 not 3024x4032 and 3.39 meg
it doesn't help.


your first pic resized to 600x800 and 130K
instead of 3024x4032
https://imgur.com/H6ptDFZ.jpg
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 23 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've not shown us much but it does look a bit of a state Sad I had one of these as a salvage jobbie so I know them pretty well.

Picture 1, tank underside

Fat pipe is the fuel line, the fuel pump is internal to the tank. The two pipes that 'Y' into is to effectively create a returnless system where overpressure can just feed back into the tank. You're missing loads of pipe clips (notice the witness marks on the rubber.) Thin pipe is a breather, connects to that little round vapor trap. The wire at the bottom is for the fuel level sensor.

Picture 2, "thing with the hoses"

This is part of the Evaporative Emission System. Unfortunately this area of the bike functionality is poorly documented. IIRC correctly one pipe goes to the airbox and the goes to...

Picture 3, "loose item"

Most likely the Evap Purge Control (EPC) valve, connected to the previous system. I don't recall where the other end goes I can only suggest eyeballing a similarly engine bike.

Picture 4, fuel filter and throttle body

Yes, that's the fuel filter. The brass bit slicking out of the throttle body probably means you're missing the Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) Sad

The thing to bear in mind with this era of Chinese bike is they're basically the earlier carb ones with retro-fitted EFI and emissions systems. I'd have a long hard think about whether what you have is worth the effort of resurrecting.

<edit> dammit, I'm posting too slowly Wink
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 23 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone for the reply.

at this point, I'm just trying to find out if the engine is working at all and without connecting all these bits and bobs, I can't even start the engine.

I honestly don't understand why this guy's treated this poor bike like this!

He didn't really need to cut all these pipes and wires! it makes no sense to me.

I'm gonna read all of your comments a few times and let it all sink in & then try to find some cheap bits for it to see if I can get engine going before I do anything else to it.

As one of you already said, yes, indeed its in a right state.

When I got it delivered and I looked at it, I said to myself, WTF have I done!

I ended up paying £70 for the bike and £138 for it to be delivered.

if the eBay seller was honest and mentioned everything about the bike, I wouldn't have bought it.

But hey ho, now its here so I feel like I have to get it going.

I've seen people restoring bikes found in the bottom of lakes or in barns from 1980s. Smile
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 23 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
You've not shown us much but it does look a bit of a state Sad I had one of these as a salvage jobbie so I know them pretty well.

Picture 1, tank underside

Fat pipe is the fuel line, the fuel pump is internal to the tank. The two pipes that 'Y' into is to effectively create a returnless system where overpressure can just feed back into the tank. You're missing loads of pipe clips (notice the witness marks on the rubber.) Thin pipe is a breather, connects to that little round vapor trap. The wire at the bottom is for the fuel level sensor.

Picture 2, "thing with the hoses"

This is part of the Evaporative Emission System. Unfortunately this area of the bike functionality is poorly documented. IIRC correctly one pipe goes to the airbox and the goes to...

Picture 3, "loose item"

Most likely the Evap Purge Control (EPC) valve, connected to the previous system. I don't recall where the other end goes I can only suggest eyeballing a similarly engine bike.

Picture 4, fuel filter and throttle body

Yes, that's the fuel filter. The brass bit slicking out of the throttle body probably means you're missing the Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) Sad

The thing to bear in mind with this era of Chinese bike is they're basically the earlier carb ones with retro-fitted EFI and emissions systems. I'd have a long hard think about whether what you have is worth the effort of resurrecting.

<edit> dammit, I'm posting too slowly Wink


Thanks mate. appreciate your reply.

Do you know anywhere I could buy these pipe clips?

Also, where's the round vapor trap? am I missing something?
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 23 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

WD Forte wrote:
1
top right outlet to INJECTOR!!! not carb
top left, dunno mebbe filter or tank balancing pump?
bottom cable+plug fuel level sender
2
looks like an AIS filter , dont really need it
3
dunno need context
4
Of course it connects to the tank
how are you going to get fuel to the engine if it doesn'tnt?
see pic 1.
What twat cut the fuel lines?
That little brass pipe goes to the AIS thingy, not needed, you can block it off


absolute legend.
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PostPosted: 00:58 - 24 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

That "vapor trap" is that round thing on the bottom left of the tank picture. The breather pipe needs to connect to the side of it. I'm not sure if it's an emissions thing or just to stop damp getting back in the tank.

This might help:

https://www.superlightpartscentre.com/

The parts diagrams are a bit ropey but better than nothing. I'd just use the site for reference and see if you can source generic or second hand parts elsewhere. That being said when I did use these guys a few years ago when I was fixing up mine they were very helpful as they emailed me the attached guides whereas I couldn't get shit out of Moto GB - parts or info - hope they might be of help Smile

p.s. the workshop manual is terrible, note the EFI is an addendum at the back as is the wiring diagram which is the most useful thing in there.
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