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Freddyfruitba... World Chat Champion
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Posted: 15:11 - 01 Dec 2021 Post subject: So, where's the scam? |
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I've just advertised an old piano on Facebook Marketplace - asking £20, just want rid basically. Almost immediately I had a message asking if it was still available - yes, I replied. At which point, the punter replies: "Ok I'll take but I'd like to come today but I'm currently busy with work, I'll send a GLS courier to your home to give you your cash and pick up the item."
This immediately struck me as being odd for several reasons, so I had a delve. The guy's name is unusual and very obviously African-sounding - along the lines of "Wadja Adjoua Nagraogo" (that's not the name); I had no problem with that except that the profile photo shows a very much white European, with absolutely no other info visible. I then try searching for "Wadja Adjoua Nagraogo" on FB, and get two hits - my prospective piano purchaser and some random dude in Kenya, with a large and fairly unlocked, innocuous profile.
So, yes it's obviously a scam (it's always a scam), but what the hell is the angle? It's just weird. Was he going to send a bunch of guys to take my piano and then say he'd forward the £20 later by Western Union? Makes no sense to me. ____________________ KC100->CB100N->CB250RS--------->DL650AL2->R1200RS->R1250RS |
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Posted: 16:18 - 01 Dec 2021 Post subject: |
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The gang arrives and you are dismembered with machetes stuffed into the top of the piano, shipped to Kenya and sold as 'bush-meat'...
..happens everyday apparently. ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
Then: Fizz, RS200, KL250, XJ550, Laverda Alpina, XJ600, FZS600 |
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Posted: 17:12 - 01 Dec 2021 Post subject: |
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There will turn out to be some sort of problem with him paying the courier. It'll turn out you could really help him out by him paypaling you the funds and you paying the courier with amazon gift cards. The courier will call you up once you've bought them and ask for the numbers off the back of them before he'll come.
Or I suppose if someone turns up at your house with £20 and wants to take it away, what's to lose? ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Posted: 18:20 - 01 Dec 2021 Post subject: |
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Being forewarned you have the option of fucking the guy about if that would amuse you. When the scammers ring up (and I have the time) I play a little game of seeing how long I can keep them on the phone. Record so far is 45 mins and transferred 3 times ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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So what happened with the piano in the end? ____________________ Current - '94 VFR750FR, '00 VFR800FI Previous - '10 Street Triple R, '92 MZ ETZ301, '05 TTR250, NSR125R, KMX125, "Honda" Win (chinese copy of an old Honda design with a C90 engine)
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Posted: 17:19 - 14 Dec 2021 Post subject: |
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I've never been able to get on with Marketplace, I just can't work it out I was once shown a very nice sportster at a very reasonable price on there, but when left to my own devices I couldnt find it again.
Someone tried to get me to use it a few weeks ago to buy [some stupid computer part, I dunno] but it just looks like a load of scammers, and yet he reckoned that he bought stuff all the time straight out of local Marketplace, and it was always fine. Indeed he seemed to have little problem in respect of the computer part other than that it was too far away to go and get at the time we wanted it.
I just don't trust it, and OP's experience just makes me trust it less.
Mebbe I should buy/sell some small pointless thing and see what experience I have... ____________________ Not nearly as interesting in real life. |
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Freddyfruitbat wrote: | Zen Dog wrote: | So what happened with the piano in the end? |
Oh some bloke (ie not the scammer) contacted me soon afterwards and agreed to the asking price. He was a retired piano tuner who occasionally buys up instruments like ours to do up and sell on. I was a bit concerned when he said he was coming to collect it on his own (I didn't know about the piano tuner thing then) - I was having visions of buggering up my back while trying to help him shift it out of the house - but it was a real eye opener! The guy singlehandedly flipped it up lengthways at 45 degrees, balanced on two wheels (ever seen a piano do a wheelie? No, no me), then deftly flicked a pneumatic-tyred trolley underneath it with his foot before lowering the piano back down on to it, and trundling the it gently out the front door. I was well impressed!
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Hellkat wrote: | I've never been able to get on with Marketplace, I just can't work it out I was once shown a very nice sportster at a very reasonable price on there, but when left to my own devices I couldnt find it again. |
It's shit, and (this being Facebook) that's deliberate. It works the same way as the feed, in that they've made the way it works under the hood deliberately vague and incomprehensible so that they can remove/add things as they wish with no-one complaining (because it doesn't make sense anyway). That said, I bought the VFR800 from there, so good deals are on there, and real. The only way I've reliably found to be able to go back to something is to bookmark it. ____________________ Current - '94 VFR750FR, '00 VFR800FI Previous - '10 Street Triple R, '92 MZ ETZ301, '05 TTR250, NSR125R, KMX125, "Honda" Win (chinese copy of an old Honda design with a C90 engine)
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Posted: 14:16 - 17 Dec 2021 Post subject: |
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Just to follow up on my earlier comment on local focused groups they do have the opposite problem to the Marketplace - their parochial nature can lead to in-fighting. If you can ignore the stupidity of petty tyrants it'll be fine ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 130 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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