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Posted: 08:00 - 09 Dec 2021 Post subject: New Zealand to ban cigarettes for future generations |
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As per the title.
Anyone born after 2008 will not be able to buy cigarettes or tobacco products in their lifetime, under a law expected to be enacted next year.
A good idea or a fuck up like American prohibition was?
The start of the slippery slope to hive control? No tobacco. Next no booze. Then sometime no motorbikes (dangerous you know).
OK, it's not UK orone of the major populous nations but I'm sure they will all be looking on interesedly. I'm sure the NHS would love this.
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Posted: 09:58 - 09 Dec 2021 Post subject: |
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It won't make much difference as its so easy to grow tobacco in NZ.
I grew my own when I lived there! .. It tasted like sh*t but it was tobacco. |
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Fat Angry Scotsman wrote: | As a libertarian, I think that generally (some exceptions) if someone is doing something that doesn't directly or in-directly harm another person then they should be free to do anything they wanted. That includes taking drugs, consuming alcohol, firearm ownership, super-kinky sex, etc - as long as it's for individual purposes and doesn't bring harm to another person (or in the case it does - the other party gives consent (again there are some exceptions such as when the person cannot give consent or is below an age limit, etc) then c'est la vie! |
Ah, but the argument is that unnecessary health risks means ending up in hospital and taking up a valuable bed so you're harming the NHS and affecting every tax payer in the country. This line of thinking means merely existing is a burden on society so you really need to put some effort in to justify your life, goddammit!
It's another one of those "ends justify the means" jobbies...
"We need to get ppl to stop smoking!"
At what cost?
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It's the only fair way to do it if you are serious about banning cigarettes. And as an intermittant ex-smoker, I wish they fucking would so I can't have a wobble and grab some baccy from the nearest shop. Even if they made it harder to get, like you have to pre-order.
It would however seem very unfair to ban something people had become addicted to when it was perfectly legal. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Posted: 13:54 - 09 Dec 2021 Post subject: |
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Easy-X wrote: | Ah, but the argument is that unnecessary health risks means ending up in hospital and taking up a valuable bed so you're harming the NHS and affecting every tax payer in the country. This line of thinking means merely existing is a burden on society so you really need to put some effort in to justify your life, goddammit!
It's another one of those "ends justify the means" jobbies...
"We need to get ppl to stop smoking!"
At what cost?
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Not really, I think that if you are known to do things that increase your risk over a certain number of standard deviations from the mean of the population you should pay for private health insurance. I am also Utilitarian in some ways. ____________________ PRESENT: 2018 BMW S1000XR SE Sport.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 110 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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