"It's all about the science"

[panrider_uk]

An interesting Twitter chat between Fraser Nelson (editor of The Spectator) and Graham Medley (the chair of the Sage modelling committee) which shows Sage making models to fit what they are asked to model!

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[stinkwheel]

Meh. You heard it here first. 12th of the month.

[panrider_uk]

His comments confirm the dastardy, dodgy doings.
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[Kawasaki Jimbo]

And on the 9th.

[weasley]

It doesn’t read well, does it? It’s not so much modelling as confirmation bias.

However one angle not mentioned but of possible concern is that regardless of how virulent or deadly omicron is, the more people that are infected by it, the higher the chance of the next mutation - the next variant could be the end game.
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[stinkwheel]

[doggone]

Last year about now there 21,000 covid patients in hospital this year about 7000 how this is being portrayed as hospital overwhelming disaster is ridiculous.
It would help if they weren't antagonising staff into quitting by threatening with vaccine mandates.

[Diggs]

Out of curiosity, can someone remind me what happened to all those emergency COVID hospitals that were set up at great expense to the taxpayer last year? We don't seem to hear anything about them any more.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

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[stinkwheel]

Once there is a protocal established, you could quickly train covid techs for treatment of cases in a nightingale hospital who could work under supervision of clinical staff. There are a limited number of things they do with a covid case and a defined limit for when you take each step. If limits are exceeded, you pass it onto clinical staff.

Admit, complete risk assessment. Certain indicators for certain interventions. A lot of routine monitoring. You wound not necessarily need trained clinical staff to do these things. In fact, sometimes technicians are better because they won't fudge results and miss steps.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

It was supposed to be the military but the lockdowns worked sufficiently well that they weren't mobilised.


All the financial recording systems were put in place to record all the costs of mobilising them but as far as I know, hardly used. Had people volunteer for the task force but they transfered to the relevant department rather than remaining on my books.
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[Im-a-Ridah]

[stinkwheel]

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[Polarbear]

[Kawasaki Jimbo]

It’s going to be interesting to see how the public will react to climate change modelling now they’ve witnessed the same forecasting techniques applied to Covid. Climate change was being lined up as the media’s Next Big Thing until Covid shoved it back down. It’s already got it’s own banner on the BBC News website.

[Diggs]

[Kawasaki Jimbo]

I’m suggesting they won’t believe the disaster narrative they’re being asked to buy into, and they’ll now have some justification.

[Nobby the Bastard]

The alternative view is that it was a case of 'do this or this will happen' and so lockdown happened.

Deaths and infections were dramatically curtailed and this gave a breathing space for a long term solution to be found (vaccination.)

With Omicron variant, the modelling was worse case because, as the scientist said, they didn't know what was going to happen.

As it happens, deaths haven't followed infections this time which is why it doesn't look like there will be a lockdown. It's also why the view that the projections were wrong has been put forward by the same people who made the projections.
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[Kawasaki Jimbo]

I think it cuts both ways. Demonstrably incorrect predictions that the icecaps or whatever would disappear by 2021 have been used to dismiss the whole thing, when in fact the forecast was probably a worst case scenario. The media won’t have told us that. I’d hope that the public will recognise this in future and want to know the full story.

I was hoping that Covid would bring an age of enlightenment for science in the public eye, but damage has been done in that respect too.