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Posted: 00:56 - 20 Dec 2021 Post subject: "It's all about the science" |
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An interesting Twitter chat between Fraser Nelson (editor of The Spectator) and Graham Medley (the chair of the Sage modelling committee) which shows Sage making models to fit what they are asked to model!
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Out of curiosity, can someone remind me what happened to all those emergency COVID hospitals that were set up at great expense to the taxpayer last year? We don't seem to hear anything about them any more. ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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weasley wrote: | the next variant could be the end game. |
Sometimes, I hope it bloody is. Maybe everyone will be happy then ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Im-a-Ridah wrote: | If covid turned out like the plague and the government did nothing Boris would be burning at the stake right now. |
Like I said, sometimes I hope the next one is the bad one - every cloud has a silver lining ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Freddyfruitbat wrote: |
But who was ever going to staff them? 'Bed capacity' isn't simply about mattresses and sheets, it's more about medical personnel needed to cover them; and we have nothing like enough of those to man the beds already normally available. |
I think they were going to bring in military medical staff, weren't they? Whether they would still have had enough depends on how bad things would have got I suppose. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Once there is a protocal established, you could quickly train covid techs for treatment of cases in a nightingale hospital who could work under supervision of clinical staff. There are a limited number of things they do with a covid case and a defined limit for when you take each step. If limits are exceeded, you pass it onto clinical staff.
Admit, complete risk assessment. Certain indicators for certain interventions. A lot of routine monitoring. You wound not necessarily need trained clinical staff to do these things. In fact, sometimes technicians are better because they won't fudge results and miss steps. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Im-a-Ridah wrote: |
Like a national draft. Issue call up notices, take people with worthwhile qualifications and give them a week of group training to treat and identify the illness, give the others 2 days and put them in support roles. |
Would you go? I wouldn't. I'm pretty certain they couldn't make me either. I'd sit in a cell before I was forced
into something I didn't want to do. A bit like how I feel about the state injectable. Booster? I'd have to have had
the first and second jabs first. I had covid back in late October/early November. I was pretty damn ill, full set of
common symptoms and a couple of less well known ones. At one point I was too weak to lift a cup of tea to my face
and couldn't even watch tv as I was too sensitive to light. Couldn't eat at all for the first 5 days and was sleeping 20
hours plus a day during the first week. Turns out all I needed were a couple of weeks off work (on full pay) to rest
and I'd estimate that over the fortnight I took about 20 paracetamol. We as a nation are already being led, coerced
and bullied into doing things we don't want to do thank you very much. Some more of that isn't the answer. "You vill
go and treat the sick until you become sick yourself... Or you vill be shot". Yeah, I'll give that a swerve ta.
Besides, I truly don't care that much about the fate of strangers. Not my problem. Nobody came to help me when I was
ill, I had to take care of myself and make my own arrangements to make sure I had groceries and whatnot.
Arguably the state injectable might have spared me a little suffering but let's be honest it wouldn't have
stopped me from catching the bug, nor likely passing it on to however many people I did. I never got my diagnosis and put
under house arrest until about a a week into my illness as I was off on leave that week anyway and was due to return to
work. I then had my first ever covid test then and got the "positive" result about 20 hours later which was enough
for work to refund me my holiday days and bung me on a 10 day isolation. I only got tested to rule it out so I could
figure out what was ailing me. so that I had something to tell them at work. To be absolutely honest, I couldn't wait to get
out of the test centre. The people in there made me sick to my stomach, swaggering around with their clipboards
and masks. I never felt like I was in the care of a medical professional at any point during the process. I asked a number
of health related questions as I went through the test and not a single one was answered with any kind of clarity. Remove
the "Global death panic" giving them an opportunity to cream in £20 an hour for telling you to stuff something up your nose
in a hastily imagined imperative crisis roles and you'd be more likely to see these folk working in a Mcdonalds. ____________________ Currently enjoying products from Ford, Mazda and Yamaha
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Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: | It’s going to be interesting to see how the public will react to climate change modelling now they’ve witnessed the same forecasting techniques applied to Covid. Climate change was being lined up as the media’s Next Big Thing until Covid shoved it back down. It’s already got it’s own banner on the BBC News website. |
Are you saying that the model presented will or won't worry the populace? Surely it all depends upon the result the person paying the statistician wants to portray? Sadly I don't think enough people appreciate this, and are happy therefore to believe the last graph presented to them. ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 125 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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