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stormrider85
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 29 Dec 2021    Post subject: bike least likely to be stolen? Reply with quote

I'm getting started on my bike adventure and will have a 125cc for a while. I like the cruiser-style bikes (esp. the low seats) and I'm hoping to pick up a used one. Like Lexmoto Michigan or Keeway Superlight. Is there a type of bike that I should consider if my primary worry is theft?

Problem is I'll need to park on the street. I might get an allocated space but nothing to anchor to at all. I'm reading through threads about security and my question is how likley is it someone wants to steal one of these little low-end bikes? Is it reasonable to do something like a few chains to the wheels, an alarm, and a cover?

EDIT: area is east Southampton if that matters....
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PostPosted: 17:07 - 29 Dec 2021    Post subject: Re: bike least likely to be stolen? Reply with quote

stormrider85 wrote:
Is there a type of bike that I should consider if my primary worry is theft?



A cruiser is a good place to start of you want one that won't be stolen as they aren't really tasteful but the best bike to get that won't be stolen is one with out wheels and engine....
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 29 Dec 2021    Post subject: Re: bike least likely to be stolen? Reply with quote

stormrider85 wrote:
I'm getting started on my bike adventure and will have a 125cc for a while. I like the cruiser-style bikes (esp. the low seats) and I'm hoping to pick up a used one. Like Lexmoto Michigan or Keeway Superlight. Is there a type of bike that I should consider if my primary worry is theft?

Problem is I'll need to park on the street. I might get an allocated space but nothing to anchor to at all. I'm reading through threads about security and my question is how likley is it someone wants to steal one of these little low-end bikes? Is it reasonable to do something like a few chains to the wheels, an alarm, and a cover?

EDIT: area is east Southampton if that matters....


Nobody wants to steal a Chinese 125cc cruiser. You're pretty safe as it is from just that Laughing

All joking aside, if your area isn't shit then just a good disc lock on the front wheel and/or a good chain through the rear wheel and frame with a decent padlock and put a rain cover over it. Doing more you will eventually realise you're just making it harder for yourself to ride away and lock up again.

I literally don't put any locks on my bikes anymore except a front disc lock (to prevent it being simply rolled away) and they haven't been stolen yet.
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 29 Dec 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stepthroughs and dirt bikes get stolen most. The first because you don't need to have much of an idea how to ride to ride one, the second because it's easier to ride through the park to get away from the police.
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PostPosted: 18:25 - 29 Dec 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about one of these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SClVfOy3aGU

Sub-125cc, low seat, they won't know how to start or ride it, and it won't be fast enough to make a quick getaway.
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 29 Dec 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

You never know - you might be able to get a ground anchor. If you're renting your accommodation and have an allocated space, you might ask your landlord for permission to install a parking bollard there. Offer to pay for it yourself, get a good one and get it set in concrete. Then chain the bike to that. Just thinking out of the box...

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PostPosted: 18:33 - 29 Dec 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Stepthroughs and dirt bikes get stolen most. The first because you don't need to have much of an idea how to ride to ride one, the second because it's easier to ride through the park to get away from the police.


There's also a market for dirt bikes without paperwork - strip the number plate, off-road use only.
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 29 Dec 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely one of these... A 350 with the guts of a 125 and the panache of a full nappy...
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 29 Dec 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or park an old caravan (which can be had cheap if they are fucked) in your allocated space, put it on axle stands with the wheels off and park the bike inside it chained throught he chassis.

Should be said that people will steal just about anything. My Jawa 350 was stolen three times. They dumped it shortly afterwards but they still stole it.
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 29 Dec 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bhud wrote:
you might ask your landlord for permission to install a parking bollard there. Offer to pay for it yourself, get a good one and get it set in concrete. Then chain the bike to that. Just thinking out of the box...

Thinking

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PostPosted: 19:47 - 29 Dec 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not just a pole sticking out of the ground lol. They fold down and have a padlock somewhere along them so you can use your own parking space. You drive out, get out of the car, raise the bollard and put your lock on it.
You can also get ones which are remotely operated, but those are more expensive and won't be a realistic option for someone renting, who just wants to secure their 125.
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 29 Dec 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bhud wrote:
Not just a pole sticking out of the ground lol. They fold down and have a padlock somewhere along them so you can use your own parking space. You drive out, get out of the car, raise the bollard and put your lock on it.
You can also get ones which are remotely operated, but those are more expensive and won't be a realistic option for someone renting, who just wants to secure their 125.


The ones that are fine to stop a car getting in/out but not wide enough to stop a bike being pushed past? Probably won't be that useful.
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 29 Dec 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

xX-Alex-Xx wrote:

The ones that are fine to stop a car getting in/out but not wide enough to stop a bike being pushed past? Probably won't be that useful.


Yes, those ones.

As a ground anchor.
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 29 Dec 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bhud wrote:
You never know - you might be able to get a ground anchor. If you're renting your accommodation and have an allocated space, you might ask your landlord for permission to install a parking bollard there. Offer to pay for it yourself, get a good one and get it set in concrete. Then chain the bike to that. Just thinking out of the box...


In an area I used to live the local Councillor came round doing the door knocking ahead of election time. I mentioned there were no ground points in the motorcycle bays on the street and lo 3 weeks later they were all done. I even voted for him after that
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 29 Dec 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

TaffyTDM wrote:
In an area I used to live the local Councillor came round doing the door knocking ahead of election time. I mentioned there were no ground points in the motorcycle bays on the street and lo 3 weeks later they were all done. I even voted for him after that


That's also a good idea. Worth thinking about.

In the part of the country where I live, councils don't stoop so low as to do anything useful. But it could be worth a try, in OP's case. I remember there was a bit of a busybody around these parts (he's dead now) who used to ride a moped, and he was always on the council's case. He created a weird localist political party, became a councillor and got a lot done. Did they hate him, though... When they reported his death, the local paper (connected with local bigwigs) couldn't resist having a go at him, saying he had pretensions of being a journalist when he was really just a blogger, and hardly anyone attended his funeral, that he had a pauper's funeral, etc. They were really quite mean. It would surprise me if there were still such characters around in the world of today, but that doesn't mean there aren't any... Anyway, I digress.
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PostPosted: 01:43 - 31 Dec 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is quite possibly the only bike that will never get stolen (or sold)....

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or ebay's most curious bike.. I give you..

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255271883336?

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PostPosted: 07:27 - 31 Dec 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goldwing.

99% of bikes can be thrown straight in the back of a transit in seconds. You'd struggle to do that with a goldwing.
So it lowers the chances of van based theft. (still possible).
Then a good immobiliser and a good lock and you deter the yobbos who want to joyride it.


cant get much more safe.
Although you run the risk of just being targeted by the high end bike thieves so swings and roundabouts lol.
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 31 Dec 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most stealable to least:

Any scooter >125cc
All other scooters
Dirt bikes
L-plate 125's
Expensive bikes
Ordinary bikes
125 Faux-cruisers
Classic bikes

Purely anecdotal based on what I've heard ppl moan about on Facebook.
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PostPosted: 16:05 - 31 Dec 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the term "rat bike" mean anything to you?
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PostPosted: 10:13 - 06 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's got an engine it's going to be a target. The easier it is to get it away and start it, the more likely it's to be a target.

A modern or modern-ish bike with a half decent immobiliser is less likely to be hotwired, something big and heavy is more likely to be daunting to a teenage scrote, lots of security will put off opportunists and a cover, or keeping it out of sight completely, will reduce awareness that it's even there. Goldwing, in a cellar with a ramp for access. No ped-boi is ever going to push that away on the footpeg. Could be interesting parking it in there though.
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PostPosted: 05:04 - 07 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fit bars that let you get through the front door.

If they can't see it. They won't steal it.
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 07 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm actually wondering in the current day and age if a bike with a kick start only and a manual choke is going to be the way forwards.

I'm trying to imagine the carnage that would result from your average 50kg ratboy trying to start an XT500 in a pair of sketchers.
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 07 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
I'm actually wondering in the current day and age if a bike with a kick start only and a manual choke is going to be the way forwards.

I'm trying to imagine the carnage that would result from your average 50kg ratboy trying to start an XT500 in a pair of sketchers.


Good thinking....

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PostPosted: 16:07 - 07 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
I'm actually wondering in the current day and age if a bike with a kick start only and a manual choke is going to be the way forwards.

I'm trying to imagine the carnage that would result from your average 50kg ratboy trying to start an XT500 in a pair of sketchers.


That would be funny to watch...
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 07 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Similar kind of theory; my touring bicycle has bar-end non-indexed friction levers. When on tour I park it up in top gear. That combined with heavy panniers means it's very difficult to move (other than freewheel downhill). I doubt any of the "current crowd" could work out how bar end shifters work; if you're too aggressive with them the chain just snarls up and the pedals are locked.
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