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Posted: 16:37 - 07 Jan 2022 Post subject: The Worlds biggest Aicraft, no sorry White Elephant |
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Airlander.
Not flown (or crashed again to be fair) in four years yet government and private investors are still piling loot into this hapless ever-morphing white elephant. A triumph of marketing over substance? - a 'production run' is now planned for 2025 so we can all 'rethink the skies'..
..yeah right on.
It may happen, I've been now to be wrong - but I wouldn't bet your trousers on it. ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
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Posted: 18:52 - 07 Jan 2022 Post subject: |
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Ah yes, Crashlander (Unfair, I know.)
It’s impressive in appearance but apart from staying aloft for up to 5 days (manned) I’m not sure what its unique selling point is, nor whether the sheer size of it is a problem. |
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Posted: 09:55 - 09 Jan 2022 Post subject: |
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MarJay wrote: | People in the know are properly behind it. The smaller prototypes have flown successfully, but there was an accident at some point which put a lot of people off... Who knows if it will work, but people who know their stuff in the aviation industry think it's a huge deal. |
I can see the hangars where it used to fly ( 3-4 times in 2017) from my work. - hence my interest I suppose (they moved out after the last crash - I assume because of the rent ). The 'small' one Airlander 10 is still bigger than a jumbo but only has a handful of trial hours to its name. The 50 is still just drawing board as far as I know. Production has been promised 'next year' for the past 4 years. The advantages over a helicopter seem slight to me.. The concept has been running for over 10 years when a previous incarnation of the company sold an engineering sample to the US DOD then bought it back again - that was the one that flew, crashed then blew away. The use model changes each year e.g. from disaster relief, to tourism to telecoms?
I cant help thinking its a solution looking for a problem. But somehow they've kept going so there must be something I don't know, there's a forthcoming IPO which will probably be decisive. ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
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Posted: 13:46 - 11 Jan 2022 Post subject: |
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Here's a great site on the history of all things airship. You can easily lose a few hours browsing here.
Specifically there's also a small section on Airlander history
https://www.airshipsonline.com/airships/HAV%20Airlander/index.html ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
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Posted: 16:16 - 11 Jan 2022 Post subject: |
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Fat Angry Scotsman wrote: |
When you realise how rare and scarce helium is and how that once it's gone: it's fucking gone - it's crazy that as a species we waste it with fucking party balloons and making our voices squeaky. |
Aye - and they lost 1.3 million cubic feet of it too when it blew away and deflated. I can't recall how much the gas cost but it was a LOT, what's more the skin is permeable IIRC so it needs regular topping up - thus there is a cost in getting that lift.
I'll dig some more on those costs maybe.
In terms of payload the Airlander 10 is err 10 tons and the Airlander 50 will be , wait for it.. 50 tons. Container ships meanwhile can carry over 20,000 20 foot containers. ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
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Posted: 10:40 - 22 Jan 2022 Post subject: |
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thx1138 wrote: | there is a smaller airship flying from Santa Pod to the Shortstown Hangars on Sunday,
I did see the airlander from Graze Hill up above Mosbury Golf course a few years back
but the way they are building houses right upto and around the airship sheds.... won't belong before the new householders start moaning about it
TBH I am soooooo bored with John Bunyan this, and John Bunyan that, the airships is a much more interesting association | ng
I'll keep an eye open. Agreed the AHT website is quite absorbing too. ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
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Posted: 11:59 - 22 Jan 2022 Post subject: |
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The R101 and Hindenberg disasters are somewhat overplayed. Both burned with visible flame, whereas burning hydrogen produces an almost invisible flame. They reckon that the dope used on the envelope was more flammable than the gas inside, hence why they both went up like a roman candle. I'm not saying the hydrogen wouldn't burn, but it's probably no worse than carrying a can of petrol especially at the pressures you're talking about in an airship. ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 133 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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