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Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: | You're a civil servant. You don't do any work. |
You are Marcus and I claim my 5 ponds.
(That’s gotta hurt.) |
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Im-a-Ridah wrote: |
It would work for a while in Bristol because most the of the population are...well educated. |
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"Consensus" a word that seems to have been forgotten lately
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Personally I favour the approach of debating all ideas and then addressing them through evidence. It avoids the dependency on some kind of super-human. |
Proper evidence, not internet source wars.
Let's face it, we have opinions, not much else. Which is fine in politics, because that's all it is; opinions on the best ways to do things. And even where science is concerned, it's not about consensus. All theories are always up for challenge, or should be when science is done right. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I broadly agree with abaaba's point, but I'd add:
1) Experts should be allowed to show their workings and explain their models in detail (the benefit being that will show, for example, how they calculate worse case scenarios, and they won't lose trust but actually gain trust if those outcomes don't manifest).
2) The whole "trust me I'm a doctor" thing just has to go. Instead, they should be supported by programmes that explain what things are. Is it assumed everyone already knows what a spike protein, for example, is? Why? Is it assumed nobody but experts needs to know what a spike protein is, i.e. if you don't already know then you don't need to know? Why?
3) There should be some way to include practitioners' and laypersons' views in a continuing feedback, using the same news media, to explore whether programmes are working. For example: reform of, say, immigration law and procedures by means of a new law. Is there sufficient transparency, aided by the media, and a culture of openness to show whether it's working or how it could be improved. Perhaps some feedback from lawyers on both sides could help. If you don't do this then you end up with a puppet show and populism, and no efficacy. It all degenerates to lizard people and paranoia and Rothschilds.
With some adjustment, the media can restore trust and help keep things moving forward. I agree that the culture of low expectations has pervaded the media and politics, and this has given rise to some dumb and wacky - really out there - conspiracy theories which don't help anything. |
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chickenstrip wrote: | Im-a-Ridah wrote: |
Personally I favour the approach of debating all ideas and then addressing them through evidence. It avoids the dependency on some kind of super-human. |
Proper evidence, not internet source wars.
Let's face it, we have opinions, not much else. Which is fine in politics, because that's all it is; opinions on the best ways to do things. And even where science is concerned, it's not about consensus. All theories are always up for challenge, or should be when science is done right. |
The difference between politicians and science is that in science it's great to be wrong, it means you tried something new, or you learned something. Personally, I'm wrong many times a day and being wrong doesn't bother me at all. In politics being wrong is seen as bad, so they avoid being wrong by never innovating. |
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Maybe new political ideas should be tried out in a laboratory before inflicting them on the general population
Problem we have at the moment seems to me to be the politicisation of science, and everything else too. Maybe there's too much emphasis on this "how can science make our lives better?" thing, instead of just trying to understand the world around us. Maybe too much commercialisation of science too. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Can't remember who pointed it out but what needs to either stop or be made much more transparent is the tendancy for a news program to have their anchor interview their science/technology/politics correspondant who replies as if they are an expert. They are not a source, they are parrotting a source and they should make it much clearer what that source is. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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What do you think is Brexit cult in the UK?
Johnson, Mogg and all Brexit zealots act like USSR communists in 1980s.
Wait 50 to a 100 years and the UK will be fine, also for any of their failures the fault is all traitors like me that do not believe in the new bright future
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 86 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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