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Nobby the Bastard
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 20 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
He was impeached but not convicted on two occasions.
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PostPosted: 23:52 - 20 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
He was impeached by not convicted on two occasions.


Nope, he was impeached on one occassion and acquitted, and as far as I can tell, the second attempt at impeaching him never had any legs, as it was decided that he would already be out of the office, and Brandon would have taken over by the time it was processed, so it never went ahead.

I was mistakenly under the impression that if he was aquitted it didn't count, but apparently Impeachement is the court 'process', which did in fact take place.
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GettinBetter wrote:
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
He was impeached by not convicted on two occasions.


Nope, he was impeached on one occassion and acquitted, and as far as I can tell, the second attempt at impeaching him never had any legs, as it was decided that he would already be out of the office, and Brandon would have taken over by the time it was processed, so it never went ahead.

I was mistakenly under the impression that if he was aquitted it didn't count, but apparently Impeachement is the court 'process', which did in fact take place.


In two cases and was impeached each time.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/us/politics/trump-impeached.html
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 21 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Funny how the word "impeachment" seems to be more important than what actually happened.
A term used for political convenience, the actual reasons for it have devalued it, since it was misused.
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 21 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
In two cases and was impeached each time.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/us/politics/trump-impeached.html

Which bit of that news article are you referring to?
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It's lucky Trump wasn't convicted. American politics is divided enough already without one side starting the ball rolling on locking the other up and then following through. Remember, Trump was elected on a similar mandate of chucking his opponent in a cell.
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PostPosted: 00:11 - 22 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Anyway, Putin spat in Macron's face today.

Don't get too excited though, I'm sure we will be next Laughing
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PostPosted: 04:44 - 22 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
But where is the EU in all this? Val said they would stop Russia in their tracks.

I mean, everyone listensto the EU. Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:27 - 22 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Germans say the pipeline will now be stopped as the invasion has begun. We all know the German's will just reopen Nord Stream 2 in the future , and so does Putin Laughing

Doesn't look like a full invasion yet though.
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 22 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nordstream 2, although complete, hasn't been started yet, it's approval for use was rejected a while ago.
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 22 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
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But where is the EU in all this? Val said they would stop Russia in their tracks.

I mean, everyone listensto the EU. Laughing


Spot the difference.

Germany: Olaf Scholtz - we have stoped Nord Stream 2 that will contribute 2.7 billion euros to the Russian GDP.

UK: Johnson - we will sanction 5 banks that are NOT in the Top 10 Russian banks list and 3 oligarchs repeat 3 oligarchs that already are in 2018 list. Laughing Laughing Laughing

UK media: all heil the hero Johnson Laughing

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PostPosted: 17:14 - 22 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Germany: Olaf Scholtz - we have stoped Nord Stream 2 that will contribute 2.7 billion euros to the Russian GDP.



As previously stated Nordstream2 has been stopped for weeks.

'This article is 3 months old'

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/nov/16/germany-suspends-approval-for-nord-stream-2-gas-pipeline
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 22 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Val wrote:

Germany: Olaf Scholtz - we have stoped Nord Stream 2 that will contribute 2.7 billion euros to the Russian GDP.



As previously stated Nordstream2 has been stopped for weeks.

'This article is 3 months old'

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/nov/16/germany-suspends-approval-for-nord-stream-2-gas-pipeline


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German energy regulator suspended its certification process


No the certification has been temporary suspended which is different than stopping it.


Now Germany decided as part of the sanctions to stop it permanently:

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/germanys-scholz-halts-nord-stream-2-certification-2022-02-22/

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Washington welcomed Scholz's announcement, saying it had been in close consultation with the German government overnight.

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba tweeted his approval.

"This is a morally, politically and practically correct step in the current circumstances," he said. "True leadership means tough decisions in difficult times. Germany's move proves just that."

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said he had asked the economy ministry to make sure certification could not take place now.

"The appropriate departments ... will make a new assessment of the security of our supply in light of what has changed in last few days," he said.


Liz Truss:

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suspending NordStream2.

We must hold Russia responsible for their actions, which will be met with severe costs. Europe must reduce its dependence on Russian gas.


https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1496124163714654210?s=20&t=xKQ-OpsMOOlD4ekeaMjVWQ

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PostPosted: 17:29 - 22 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
So was or wasn't it stopped 3 months ago based on political pressure?

Making it permanant rather than temporarily doesn't alter the fact that Germany said months ago it wasn't going to approve it's use.
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Nobby the Bastard wrote:
So was or wasn't it stopped 3 months ago based on political pressure?

Making it permanant rather than temporarily doesn't alter the fact that Germany said months ago it wasn't going to approve it's use.


Germany NEVER said it will not approve Nordstream 2 before today's Olaf Scholtz announcement.
It was not stopped because of political pressure there was no statements about such thing. The only statements were about certification only.
There were temporary certification issues only.

As I have mentioned there was some delay in certifications not a permanent stop.

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"This a huge change for German foreign policy with massive implications for energy security and Berlin's broader position towards Moscow," said Marcel Dirsus, non-resident fellow at Kiel University's Institute for Security Policy.


So no this not something that has happened 3 months ago.

Can't wait to watch BBC and Sky news hailing Johnson as the true hero today Laughing
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I don't think the UK should do anything. Not our problem. I'm not sure which is worse; a Europe ruled by the EU, or a Europe ruled by Putin. By this stage, I'm frankly ready to give Putin the benefit of the doubt Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 22 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Tbh nordstream 2 being refused approval because of US pressure about, amongst other reasons, weakening Ukraine probably made Putin think he had nothing to lose by invading Ukraine.
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Anyway, Germany isn’t the EU. Hungary may throw a spanner in the works due to the unanimity requirement, and Italy want to maintain fuel supplies.
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I don't think the UK should do anything. Not our problem. I'm not sure which is worse; a Europe ruled by the EU, or a Europe ruled by Putin. By this stage, I'm frankly ready to give Putin the benefit of the doubt Laughing


At work we've been told to be extra vigilant for suspicious emails due to the ongoing situation. Can't recall getting a warning about the EU and cyber attacks.

The people on either side will want to get on with living their lives...y'know save for a holiday...meet up with mates and family...eat good grub. They'll not be wanting mass deaths and destroying homes.

Sociopaths like the current crop of world leaders are our problem and should be challenged at every opportunity....even if putting a cross in a box is the only option.

To turn backs and say it's not our problem isn't right.
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chickenstrip wrote:
I don't think the UK should do anything. Not our problem. I'm not sure which is worse; a Europe ruled by the EU, or a Europe ruled by Putin. By this stage, I'm frankly ready to give Putin the benefit of the doubt Laughing


I totally agree. Russia will steamroller where it wants because it regards us in the west as lost it. I hate how our country has become, time to cull wet tards.
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Howling Terror wrote:

To turn backs and say it's not our problem isn't right.


Well, I suppose I could go and have a word with Putin Laughing But I've got you to deal with it all Pat, so I'm not too worried Smile

EU, Putin, Biden, Trudeau, Xinping...it's all the death of democracy.
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We need to cull a good few billion. Bring it on. I'd rather go out in a nuclear flash than dribbling in an old peoples home.
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Anyway, personally I have more respect for the Russian people than any of the fucktards that want to be British haters which is just about everyone whohas a fucking British passport nowadays.
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Polarbear wrote:
Anyway, personally I have more respect for the Russian people than any of the fucktards that want to be British haters which is just about everyone whohas a fucking British passport nowadays.


I don't have a passport so ner mer me ner ner.
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