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Are you willing to pay 300m for peace in Europe?
Fine with me.
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No I want war.
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Val
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PostPosted: 01:38 - 27 Feb 2022    Post subject: ending the war in Europe for 300m.? Reply with quote

Plot twist.

Putin was talking about Ukraine surrender.

I wonder what will happen If EU/UK offer 1 million rubles (€12K) cash and a visa to the first 30K Russian soldiers to surrender…how long would there be a Russian army in Ukraine? The end of the war in Ukraine will cost us €300 million.Surely that is pocket money
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I am fine to have 30 000 russians living with us if that will be the price of peace in Europe. Say 4000 in the UK and 26 000 in EU or something like that.

Are you willing to pay that price?

FYI Russian army are conscripts they are not professional like UK they do not have a choice. Young russian soldiers are victims of this war here too.

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PostPosted: 02:02 - 27 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted against your proposal on this, because what you're advocating is the corruption of the human spirit. It's better if there is peace, enlightenment values, reason and population control. But if not (in which case I deeply regret), then let people do justice to their fathers. These people (Ukrainians and Russians) are basically the same tribe. If you bribe people you make the world sick and degrade the sanctity in the human spirit that you yourself may hold dear but which I regard as a deleterious fiction. War is a sacred thing if the human soul is also sacred. Therefore I voted against, for you. For what it's worth.
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PostPosted: 02:43 - 27 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just s small step away from invasions for cash.
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PostPosted: 04:07 - 27 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bollocks to Bhuds' humanity spirit and all that. It's just wrong to bribe someone for a wrong doing.
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PostPosted: 09:25 - 27 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apart from the unappealing fact that that’s how mafias work, you’re only offering £9000 to start a new, uncertain life and leave their families behind to who-knows-what kinds of retribution. Silly idea.
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 27 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to say this is not a bribe. Young russian soldiers do not want to go fight and die in Ukraine, the money are to help their families and the working visa is ot help them on their new life as refugees from Putin.

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I voted against your proposal on this, because what you're advocating is the corruption of the human spirit. It's better if there is peace, enlightenment values, reason and population control. But if not (in which case I deeply regret), then let people do justice to their fathers. These people (Ukrainians and Russians) are basically the same tribe. If you bribe people you make the world sick and degrade the sanctity in the human spirit that you yourself may hold dear but which I regard as a deleterious fiction. War is a sacred thing if the human soul is also sacred. Therefore I voted against, for you. For what it's worth.


How it is corruption of human spirit and wrong to help people that are also victims and potentialy against Putin?
Russian army are conscripts they are not professional like UK they do not have a choice. They are victims here too.

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Bollocks to Bhuds' humanity spirit and all that. It's just wrong to bribe someone for a wrong doing.


How ti is wrong doing to be against Putin I seriously cant get your point?

Seriously guys you'd rather give weapons to people to kill themself instead of having peaceful solution here? Thinking

Why everybody are so blood thursty nowadays...
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PostPosted: 10:12 - 27 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Just s small step away from invasions for cash.


Not at all, because no dictator or warlord will invade knowing they will lose their army innit?

Say you are China Xi Jinping.

1. You invade Taiwan knwoing half of your army will desert and join the free country.
2. You do not do that because you do not want to lose half of your army and the war.

Options...

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PostPosted: 10:48 - 27 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Val wrote:
stinkwheel wrote:
Just s small step away from invasions for cash.


Not at all, because no dictator or warlord will invade knowing they will lose their army innit?


Not really. It's setting a prescedent of paying an army to fuck off and flooding your enemy with your citizens.

That could be weaponised. Both Russia and China have huge populations and their leaders aren't afraid to spend it.
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 27 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stupid idea, basically you're setting yourself up for blackmail from a larger neighbour.
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 27 Feb 2022    Post subject: Re: ending the war in Europe for 300m.? Reply with quote

Val wrote:
I am fine to have 30 000 russians living with us

Who do you man by "us"?

Is it Bulgaria?

Is it the UK?

Is it Germany?

Or is it somewhere else?
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 27 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Russians living in the UK won't go down well with woke control. The ones I have met aren't exactly known for their love of coloured people.

Anyway Val, you're being very nice about the UK now. Brexit not caused Russia to attack? I'm amazed. Of course it's nothing to do with the fact you might want to run away from where you are to here is it.
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PostPosted: 15:01 - 27 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Russians living in the UK won't go down well

Come off it, you're saying that you don't want the Russian Mafia in the UK?

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PostPosted: 16:52 - 27 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Come off it, you're saying that you don't want the Russian Mafia in the UK?


Who do you think own all the titty-bars in the UK? The Russian mafia are here.
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 27 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a better idea: Improve our own armed forces.
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 27 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im-a-Ridah wrote:
Here's a better idea: Improve our own armed forces.


Agreed. And here's how we pay for it: we confiscate the wealth of these Russian oligarchs with their money in our financial systems.
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 27 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

And spend the money on diversity training so that the British Army are properly equipped to fight a war. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 27 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted no because that will just bring about the Corpo-Militia war economy of MGS4 sooner.
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 27 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
And spend the money on diversity training so that the British Army are properly equipped to fight a war. Thumbs Up


Personally, I would hunt down all the people promoting the woke agendas in our institutions and send them off to fight Russia in Ukraine.
I'm thinking of course along the lines of forming them into a suicide battalion. Wouldn't want to burden the people of Ukraine with them.
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 27 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
Ste wrote:
And spend the money on diversity training so that the British Army are properly equipped to fight a war. Thumbs Up


Personally, I would hunt down all the people promoting the woke agendas in our institutions and send them off to fight Russia in Ukraine.


The woke showed their true colours. As soon as conscription comes to town, feminists are all about that cooking, cleaning and looking after children lifestyle, and fighting wars is a job for the men. Also another example of how crying, protesting and appeasement failed, but a strong defensive military force and the right to bear arms for citizens succeeded.
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PostPosted: 17:15 - 28 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I wish eastern Europe would get tucked back in behind the iron curtain. Its been a disaster for western europeans and turned Europe into a two tier society with the afluent middle class getting to live in the twenty first century while ordinary workers get thrown back into the nineteen fifties. I say give the east back to Russia and only let them back into Europe when they can socially, politically and economically come up to western standards, as the case should have been back in the nineties.
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 28 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:


Personally, I would hunt down all the people promoting the woke agendas in our institutions and send them off to fight Russia in Ukraine.
I'm thinking of course along the lines of forming them into a suicide battalion. Wouldn't want to burden the people of Ukraine with them.


I dunno, i think parachuting Greta into Red Square would be very effective. Everywhere she goes she causes disruption and it would be fun seeing how Pootin and gus generals coped trying to herd thousands of wailing emo-children around.
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 01 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ribenapigeon wrote:
chickenstrip wrote:


Personally, I would hunt down all the people promoting the woke agendas in our institutions and send them off to fight Russia in Ukraine.
I'm thinking of course along the lines of forming them into a suicide battalion. Wouldn't want to burden the people of Ukraine with them.


I dunno, i think parachuting Greta into Red Square would be very effective. Everywhere she goes she causes disruption and it would be fun seeing how Pootin and gus generals coped trying to herd thousands of wailing emo-children around.


Becareful Tdibs has got some love thing with Greta. He's call all us Greta piss takers Gammons!

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Also you guys are obsessed with this Greta kid, its peak gammon posting to obsess over a child like this.

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PostPosted: 11:15 - 01 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I don't understand the Greta-bashing because I think she's just a vulnerable person that's being used as a puppet in the movement. Also I think her parents have failed at being parents as she hasn't had much of a childhood on her crusade. I think along the way they've probably trouser'd a lot of money thanks to her fame/notoriety.

I see her as a victim. If it wasn't for her having Asperger's Syndrome I would also point out that she is not a child: at 19 she is an adult. My little brother is 27, has Asperger's and his mental age is probably around 13/14 despite physically being 27 so I would definitely class her as a vulnerable person.
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 01 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fat Angry Scotsman wrote:
While I don't understand the Greta-bashing because I think she's just a vulnerable person that's being used as a puppet in the movement. Also I think her parents have failed at being parents as she hasn't had much of a childhood on her crusade. I think along the way they've probably trouser'd a lot of money thanks to her fame/notoriety.

I see her as a victim. If it wasn't for her having Asperger's Syndrome I would also point out that she is not a child: at 19 she is an adult. My little brother is 27, has Asperger's and his mental age is probably around 13/14 despite physically being 27 so I would definitely class her as a vulnerable person.


I thought the Asperger's diagnosis had been dropped?, That its all a spectrum diagnosis of Autism now?
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 01 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ribenapigeon wrote:
I thought the Asperger's diagnosis had been dropped?, That its all a spectrum diagnosis of Autism now?


You're probably right, not that I care about semantics over terminology. He was diagnosed around 1999/2000 so whatever the terminology was then. Regarding Greta's diagnosis, it is what it is referred to specifically in her Wikipedia article.
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