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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 24 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I'm thinking about self installing a small ground mounted PV plug in system to offset some of our costs - nothing grand just 4 panels to start with and we'll look at expanding things if it works well. We've got open horizons to the south so in theory it should generate a reasonable amount of energy.

Apparently when you send the G98 paperwork to the DNO to let them know you've installed it, they're supposed to notify your energy supplier but rarely do which is why 'someone' got away with it for a year. I still have an old fashioned spinning wheel meter so I'm hoping to see it go backwards from time to time or at least stop dead. Very Happy


I'm looking at going hybrid storage. So the battery stores the power, when you've used that up, it switches you back onto the mains. I worked out an 8 panel system would supply my entire house minus the electric oven and tumble drier. I thought they could be put on a seperate spur so they don't draw off the battery at all which would keep down high loads and increase longevity.

No feed-in with that system. It just cuts off the mains supply downstream of the meter when you're running on battery power. You use all the power you produce (minus losses).

Added bonus of all the lights and heating on with TV blaring out when everyone else has a power cut.
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 24 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
stinkwheel wrote:


I'm looking at going hybrid storage. So the battery stores the power, when you've used that up, it switches you back onto the mains. I worked out an 8 panel system would supply my entire house minus the electric oven and tumble drier. I thought they could be put on a seperate spur so they don't draw off the battery at all which would keep down high loads and increase longevity.

No feed-in with that system. It just cuts off the mains supply downstream of the meter when you're running on battery power. You use all the power you produce (minus losses).

Added bonus of all the lights and heating on with TV blaring out when everyone else has a power cut.


I'm thinking of something similar if the plug in system pans out along with the possibility of a long run diesel generator for power cuts. I can get red diesel easily here so it should be fairly cost effective.

Either way I'm looking to pay the greedy buggers a lot less. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:39 - 25 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think, like gas installs, there will be details to get around as far as Safety is concerned. Part P
(Begins Argument)

i.e. Electrical supply must not be tamperfered with anyone other than qualified bodgers.
So work done probably requires inspection/sign-off by a sparkle.

(As for gas, the bodger must be currently 'registered' with Gas Safe. Currently means currently working with Gas Safe certified company and Gas Safe certified jobs.)

Leccy has some stuff in it too.

Failing to do competent work is deadly when Phaffing with house electrics.

Doing the work and then having a sparkle hook it up would solve that issue.
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 25 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
MCN wrote:
I think, like gas installs, there will be details to get around as far as Safety is concerned. Part P
(Begins Argument)

i.e. Electrical supply must not be tamperfered with anyone other than qualified bodgers.
So work done probably requires inspection/sign-off by a sparkle.

(As for gas, the bodger must be currently 'registered' with Gas Safe. Currently means currently working with Gas Safe certified company and Gas Safe certified jobs.)

Leccy has some stuff in it too.

Failing to do competent work is deadly when Phaffing with house electrics.

Doing the work and then having a sparkle hook it up would solve that issue.


No Part P in Scotland Laughing

I know my way around household electrics and electrics in general and am familiar with the regs. The plug in stuff is designed to be self installed. Grid safety is taken care of by the edge inverters which comply to the necessary standards - it's all in the compliance cert that comes with the kit - all you have to do is send it off to the DNO. Razz
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PostPosted: 05:42 - 26 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Islander wrote:
MCN wrote:
I think, like gas installs, there will be details to get around as far as Safety is concerned. Part P
(Begins Argument)

i.e. Electrical supply must not be tamperfered with anyone other than qualified bodgers.
So work done probably requires inspection/sign-off by a sparkle.

(As for gas, the bodger must be currently 'registered' with Gas Safe. Currently means currently working with Gas Safe certified company and Gas Safe certified jobs.)

Leccy has some stuff in it too.

Failing to do competent work is deadly when Phaffing with house electrics.

Doing the work and then having a sparkle hook it up would solve that issue.


No Part P in Scotland Laughing

I know my way around household electrics and electrics in general and am familiar with the regs. The plug in stuff is designed to be self installed. Grid safety is taken care of by the edge inverters which comply to the necessary standards - it's all in the compliance cert that comes with the kit - all you have to do is send it off to the DNO. Razz


Christ... Did Korns Update mean that my posts are only readable in the Scottish Forum now?
Shocked

We awe think we're capable.

That can be a massive problem for anyone else.
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 26 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Islander wrote:


No Part P in Scotland Laughing

I know my way around household electrics and electrics in general and am familiar with the regs. The plug in stuff is designed to be self installed. Grid safety is taken care of by the edge inverters which comply to the necessary standards - it's all in the compliance cert that comes with the kit - all you have to do is send it off to the DNO. Razz


MCN wrote:
Christ... Did Korns Update mean that my posts are only readable in the Scottish Forum now?
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Nah, you're fine but as we're both in Scotland... Laughing

MCN wrote:
We awe think we're capable.

That can be a massive problem for anyone else.


I know I'm capable. Razz

I have the necessary test equipment and the skill to use it. I know how to run, terminate and test cabling and equipment to comply to the regs. All of the electrical work in my house (barring a test required to comply with grant conditions which was done by a friend as a favour) has been done by me. That includes replacing an old wire fuse consumer unit with a newer RCD/MCB specced one, running an extra ring when I moved the kitchen to a different room, running external lighting using SWA, running power out to my workshop using SWA...
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 26 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Islander wrote:

I know I'm capable. Razz

I have the necessary test equipment and the skill to use it. I know how to run, terminate and test cabling and equipment to comply to the regs. All of the electrical work in my house (barring a test required to comply with grant conditions which was done by a friend as a favour) has been done by me. That includes replacing an old wire fuse consumer unit with a newer RCD/MCB specced one, running an extra ring when I moved the kitchen to a different room, running external lighting using SWA, running power out to my workshop using SWA...



I never doubted your prowess at powering projects.

I wired lights sockets and consumer unit and the armoured cable under the hoose to my garage.
But... a sparkle who fitted the solar stuff gave me a paper that included the inventor, meter, panel breaker, garage consumer unit et al. Coz he hooked up the Feed In to my armour cable.
He did comment why I went for such heavy cable for the garage?
I told him I didn't trust my calculations so went overkill. The extra cost for 20 ft of cable was negligible.

Other electrics I do myself.

I don't encourage non competent folk to work on Lecky or Gas themself/without qualified competent supervision.
It too easy to make sloppy mistakes. That's why it is regulated.
People get caught regularly for illegal gas and electric work.

A wee boy was murdered by a couple of cunts who wired outdoor lighting at a pub down Saff.
None of the two cunts accepted responsibility.

One was a failed electrician.
It should serve as warning to enthusiastic DIYers.
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PostPosted: 15:49 - 26 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
MCN wrote:

I never doubted your prowess at powering projects.

I wired lights sockets and consumer unit and the armoured cable under the hoose to my garage.
But... a sparkle who fitted the solar stuff gave me a paper that included the inventor, meter, panel breaker, garage consumer unit et al. Coz he hooked up the Feed In to my armour cable.
He did comment why I went for such heavy cable for the garage?
I told him I didn't trust my calculations so went overkill. The extra cost for 20 ft of cable was negligible.


The whole point of the plug in system is that it's just that Smile

The kit comes with all of the necessary and installation instructions plus the compliance certificate to send to the DNO - it's intended for self installation. It doesn't work off grid as is - if there's a power cut then the inverters shut down to protect DNO workers further upstream.

I'll probably wire it into its own MCB in the workshop for extra safety and I'll be overspeccing the cable that runs from the panels to the MCB purely so that future upgrades, should I decide to continue down the PV route, are straightforward. Smile

The bastards are out of stock at the moment though - I wonder why? Laughing
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