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TravisBickle
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 21 Mar 2022    Post subject: BMW naming Reply with quote

Am I correct in thinking that:

Let's get the prefixes out of the way and come to the suffixes later...

Starts with C = Scooter
Starts with F = Parallel twin
Starts with G = Single
Starts with K = In-line four
Starts with R = Flat twin
Starts with S = In-line four

Is that right?

And what does HP stand for / indicate? HP2 and HP4 very similar names, very different engines and bike styles???!!!
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PostPosted: 16:08 - 21 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

HP = high performance.

As for the rest of 'em...

"F: This is for parallel twins in the 900 to 750 range. Confusingly, BMW called the 650 single-cylinder motor an F from 2000 to 2007—let us never speak of this again.

G: A single-cylinder motor—currently the 310 exclusively, though it has been a 650 in the past.

K: In the 21st century, this means an inline-6 that is transversely mounted. Back in the 1900s, it was a longitudinally mounted inline-4. The K continued in the early 2000s as a transversely mounted inline-4. We’re not sure why BMW recycled the K instead of coming up with a new letter for the inline-6.

M: The M is the high-performance version of the inline-4 used by the S models.

R: The classic boxer twin, these range from the Big Boxer used in the R 18 to the 1170cc R nineT line. BMW’s use of the R dates back to the 1923 R 32 flat-twin, though the R was used for single-cylinder models into the 1960s.

S: This is the inline-4 configuration. It’s a one-liter design."
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PostPosted: 16:09 - 21 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Missed off one.
B - pretentious annoying cunt.
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 21 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lest we forget.

"A large investment in BMW by Herbert Quandt and Harald Quandt resulted in the company surviving as a separate entity. The Quandt's father, Günther Quandt, was a well-known German industrialist. Quandt joined the Nazi party in 1933 and made a fortune arming the German Wehrmacht, manufacturing weapons and batteries.
Many of his enterprises were appropriated from Jewish owners under duress with minimal compensation. At least three of his enterprises made extensive use of slave laborers, as many as 50,000 in all. One of his battery factories had its own on-site concentration camp, complete with gallows. Life expectancy for laborers was six months.
While Quandt and BMW were not directly connected during the war, funds amassed in the Nazi era by his father allowed Herbert Quandt to buy BMW."

(BMW's sub-stellar history. As found in Wikipedia)
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 21 Mar 2022    Post subject: Re: BMW naming Reply with quote

TravisBickle wrote:
Am I correct in thinking that:

Let's get the prefixes out of the way and come to the suffixes later...

Starts with C = Scooter
Starts with F = Parallel twin
Starts with G = Single
Starts with K = In-line four
Starts with R = Flat twin
Starts with S = In-line four

Is that right?

And what does HP stand for / indicate? HP2 and HP4 very similar names, very different engines and bike styles???!!!



What about dual letter prefixes? Pretty sure the GS range aren't singles ... Or just a single if you're only looking at it from the side?
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 21 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

GS is a suffix not a prefix but it means Gelande Strasse, which translate as Off road/On Road.

It's no more or less confusing than Japanese naming schemes, it's just we're all so used to the Jap stuff that the Beemer naming seems weird and alien. Especially since before 2011 we had to be 60 and wear a lot of tweed to consider owning one.
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 21 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
GS is a suffix not a prefix but it means Gelande Strasse, which translate as Off road/On Road.

It's no more or less confusing than Japanese naming schemes, it's just we're all so used to the Jap stuff that the Beemer naming seems weird and alien. Especially since before 2011 we had to be 60 and wear a lot of tweed to consider owning one.


I'm still pretty baffled by a lot of the Jap namings to be honest, especially some of the slightly older stuff like the early 2000s and older, as I only got into bikes a few years ago but am gradually getting familiar with a few key letters that mean certain things. But there's still a chasm for me to get my head round.

So yeah GS = ADV

XR = Would you call this a sports ADV? Or Hyper ADV?

I'm guessing R = naked?

In the sports and sports tourer type bikes I see GT, R, RR, RS, S, ST etc. No idea what any of these are supposed to mean.

On to tourers I have noticed GT, GTL, LT, RT... Guessing the T is for touring, other than that, I'm stumped Thinking

Maybe it's not all 100% logic and is sometimes just picking letters out of a hat?
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 21 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

K75 - inline triple Confused
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 21 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

TravisBickle wrote:

Maybe it's not all 100% logic and is sometimes just picking letters out of a hat?


I think it's a mistake to assume there is anything to it other than 'this will sound cool'

Nowadays with suffixes like GT and SP they have meanings, but only because the Japanese have absorbed our western acronyms I guess.

Don't forget that western letters are western letters and It's not like the Japanese named bikes in Kanji or something. Even the Katana, Ninja etc came from American marketing teams. The only exception possibly being the Hayabusa or maybe the Inazuma? FireBlade is a direct translation for Lightning, and apparently Inazuma is also the Japanese word for lightning. *shrug* It's always been weird.
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 22 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

TravisBickle wrote:

XR = Would you call this a sports ADV? Or Hyper ADV?

I'm guessing R = naked?


There's nothing adventure about the S1000XR; it's a sportsbike on stilts with a slightly adventure-styled frock on. There's an R on the end, but it's got a fairing too.
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 22 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

All vehicle naming schemes are driven by marketing departments really. Sometimes they indicate useful information (engine sizes, capabilities). Sometimes it's whatever association they want consumers to have to their previous/other products (lineage, style, market segment). Pretty much every seemingly hard and fast rule on naming has exceptions, so I just wouldn't put too much stock in them.

Saying all that, it still annoys me that the 2008+ F650GS is an 800. And that while in the UK a Kawasaki "Ninja" indicates a dedicated sportsbike, in the US they put it on pretty much every bike. And that... I think I just hate marketing departments.
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 22 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

A100man wrote:
K75 - inline triple Confused


Didn't they make a K75SS at one point? Great for European touring by all accounts.
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