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Posted: 18:05 - 14 Apr 2022 Post subject: Did an oppsie on highway, need help diagnosing |
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Hello. Any mechanics out here? Gotta a problem (but it might not be a problem).
Im new rider, wanned to "feel" the bike , went outta on highway doing some 70mph and i shifted into 3rd from 4th, bike made not so nice noises, stalled and i rolled to a stop. Tried turning it on again with no luck, it would start, run for few seconds and die. Pushed it home. After few hours i tried starting it again, it did, start wasnt rough, sounded normal, however now I have to give it more choke than before to run, at idle it sounds like little tractor. Drove around slowly, gears seem to be in their places, and it still cluncks into first, so I guess there wasnt catastrophical gear failure? How ever low idle rpm seems abit odd.
I did have some problems with fuel before "accident", because it would run rough/stall without a choke.
Bikes is 98' yamaha xj600s diversion (seca II in USA)
Should I be worried? (About the bike, not my riding skills) |
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One thing to check is if any of the plugs are loose. Also check the condition of the plug electrodes.
Is it running on all 4 cylinders? A spot of oil on each header pipe will tell you if they are all getting hot. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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stinkwheel wrote: | One thing to check is if any of the plugs are loose. Also check the condition of the plug electrodes.
Is it running on all 4 cylinders? A spot of oil on each header pipe will tell you if they are all getting hot. |
Good suggestions here.. 'Tractor sound' will be same as runnig on 2 or 3 cylinders..
Steps:
1 Is it running on all four - check as Stinkwheel suggestion.. if not
2) check all plugs are sparking if yes >
3) check fuelling/ clean carbs, if good >
4) check compression - should be close across all cylinders and above 120 PSI
if compression bad then it likely point to valve damage or valve train adjustments needed ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
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New rider, 25 year old bike. I'm assuming you haven't been riding it hard, and it sounds like the bike will have the sort of usual issues found on a 25 year old bike sold to a new rider.
This is likely the first time in a while that the bike seen 70 in 3rd, in a somewhat violent manner. So it had a sudden spike in pressure through the inlet, engine, and exhaust.
First place I would look is at the exhaust, to see if it has a hole in it somewhere in a rusty bit. Bike are very sensitive to their exhausts, even a small hole will make it sound strange and affect the performance.
If the exhaust is fine I would be looking at the inlet rubbers - between the carbs and engine - so see if there are any holes or splits there.
Checking the sparkplugs as stinkwheel said is a good bet.
Welcome to motorcycle ownership. You'll learn to fix things fairly quickly, they break a lot and need a lot of routine maintenance. Unlike a car where you can service it once a year, you will need to check engine oil, tyre pressures, chain tension and brake pad thickness quite frequently.
If you have any biker friends who are also good with spanners, ask them to check the bike over and see what they find. Every old bike will have issues that you won't notice, but make a big difference. |
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WD Forte wrote: | The 'tractor' like sound may be just a blown exhaust seal for all we know
Best take a phone vid and post it to IMGUR/Youtube or similar
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Okay, so im went to the bike today, tried to drive, rode few hundred meters and it died, starting again was hard, had to pull the choke all way to start, i think I felt unsual vibrations.
About the videos.
Just after buying the bike, before screwing it up:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/5oZjdv8XHU4
Here is how it wants to start without choke when WARM:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0U5-nkyzRo
I really dont like the sounds its making when rpm is ~1k.
Here how its working COLD-ish:
https://youtu.be/QVpQRDgr9Ak
I check all 4 exhaust headers were hot, so the cyllinders are firing. Plugs are not lose, I didnt remove them tho.
From common knowledge, the knocking sound at ~1k rpm sound like camshaft, crackshaft or pistons or something in between vibrating the way they shouldnt.
Tell me straight doc, how bad is it?
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 6 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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