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My last bike before the current NC750x was a Fazer FZ6 it had 80k on it when I got it and 129,900 when the ECU died
OK I knew the bike well as I had serviced it from 30k
I do not worry about miles that much more condition and having been maintained BUT I never buy a bike that done less than 1000 a year and would also avoid Garage queens ____________________ Dave
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davebike wrote: | BUT I never buy a bike that done less than 1000 a year and would also avoid Garage queens |
The generous part ex price I got for my 3000 mile (apparently ragged ) 2016 bike would seem to suggest low
mileage bikes are considerably more valuable and sought after than well used examples. Besides, I can't be arsed to
sell privately for the sake of maybe an extra 500 quid if that, too many chancers, tyre kickers and piss takers.
I prefer brand new bikes and nearly new cars with as low mileage as possible. I've bought high mileage vehicles before
and ended up spending bundles on them. Not so bothered about low mileage vans, My transit is a high miler and is
due a good grands worth of work to keep it running nice, cambelt and water pump kit, new clutch and replacement sump
pan all bought and waiting to go on the van next week before its MOT. I can also see the value in having an anonymous,
tatty vehicle that you can leave anywhere, my white van is perfect for this. My bike however, never leaves my sight unless
its inside my shed, I'm either on it or it's locked away. Period. ____________________ Currently enjoying products from Ford, Mazda and Yamaha
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NutsyUk wrote: | Good advice guys thanks,
Yeah apparently it has a full service history, before I purchase it (if i do ) ill ask to look at its log book. |
They've all got full service histories - the question is can you believe them. There are almost certainly shops around here that just listen to the damn things and stamp the book - I've heard first hand accounts of this. If you DO trust the stamps, so be it. I personally wouldn't - unless it was a vfr800 of recent vintage, and then I might....simply because to not trust them could mean a fairly hefty spend. Could be north of £500 if valve adjustment is needed. Even more if v-tech.
So then you might also want some tyres, chain and sprockets, some greasing of suspension linkages, swing arm bushings, etc. The Japanese manufacturers got really stingy with grease not that long ago. If you DID need all that, and a bit more, you could be into four figures. With the valve check (+ adjustment), you might be looking at a goodly chunk of expenditure. I mean, some of the 750s wanted shocks after 30k, for instance.
I bought a big-ish V-reg Jap bike w/ 18k on it, and straight away had to spend. On little stuff like a fuel pipe perished, but also I did have to bite the bullet and get a valve check - typically the exhaust valves had tightened. So there was shimming shenanigans involved. After about 18 months I also had a swing arm bush let go - and that was chucking me wide in corners, seriously tried to kill me twice. So costs add up, and it can be dangerous to neglect stuff, hoping that the PO is as good as their word, or their mechanic's.
Put some surreptitious witness marks on bolts and fasteners, if you don't have a tame and trusted fettler. There's no easy way with this stuff. You have to be sceptical where appropriate, but you also have to be able to have some faith in your chosen bloke.
In answer to your question, though, no I don't think I would consider that money and those miles on this particular bike - but it's difficult to say without seeing it, etc. I think they're heavier than they should be, I prefer the looks, and gear driven cams of the 750s, and so would be after a 20k-ish mile example of those for about £2.5k preferably. Then chucking a few hundred at it and maybe a grand depending on how it feels and sounds, idles, starts, steers, etc. etc. ____________________ "Life is a sexually transmitted disease and the mortality rate is one hundred percent."
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NutsyUk wrote: | Its a 2015 VFR800 for £3990. It looks fine but can only see so much on a sales listing. |
I don't consider 60,000 miles to be a deal killer; my first VFR had 57,000 on the clock when I bought it. But there were several low mileage examples for sale at the time, and I was able to negotiate a very favorable price. If you are going to consider a high mileage bike, make sure you work a deal that is in your favor.
£3990 is nearly 40% of what that bike cost new. I might be willing to pay that price for a bike with 12-15K miles on it; not a 7 year old VFR with 60,000 miles. By the sound if it, that bike is overpriced.
The eighth gen VFRs had VTEC. Older bikes (5th gen and earlier) had gear driven cams; you had to remove the camshafts to adjust the valves. But on the VTEC models, the camshafts need to come out in order to check the valve clearances. (Then back out to make the adjustment, then back in to check the adjustment), Couple that with the fact that the tank, airbox, and throttle body have to come out in order to access the valve covers, and you see why the service costs on the VTEC VFRs is so expensive, and why this maintenance is often deferred. Personally, I would not get a VTEC bike unless I planned to do the valve checks myself. It's not extraordinarily difficult, but it is time consuming.
Unless you are a real VFR enthusiast with the knowledge and skill to keep the bike roadworthy, it is probably best to take a pass on this bike. Not because of the mileage, but because of the complexities of the maintenance requirements. ____________________ History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of men - BOC |
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jeffyjeff wrote: | NutsyUk wrote: | Its a 2015 VFR800 for £3990. It looks fine but can only see so much on a sales listing. |
I don't consider 60,000 miles to be a deal killer; my first VFR had 57,000 on the clock when I bought it. But there were several low mileage examples for sale at the time, and I was able to negotiate a very favorable price. If you are going to consider a high mileage bike, make sure you work a deal that is in your favor.
£3990 is nearly 40% of what that bike cost new. I might be willing to pay that price for a bike with 12-15K miles on it; not a 7 year old VFR with 60,000 miles. By the sound if it, that bike is overpriced.
The eighth gen VFRs had VTEC. Older bikes (5th gen and earlier) had gear driven cams; you had to remove the camshafts to adjust the valves. But on the VTEC models, the camshafts need to come out in order to check the valve clearances. (Then back out to make the adjustment, then back in to check the adjustment), Couple that with the fact that the tank, airbox, and throttle body have to come out in order to access the valve covers, and you see why the service costs on the VTEC VFRs is so expensive, and why this maintenance is often deferred. Personally, I would not get a VTEC bike unless I planned to do the valve checks myself. It's not extraordinarily difficult, but it is time consuming.
Unless you are a real VFR enthusiast with the knowledge and skill to keep the bike roadworthy, it is probably best to take a pass on this bike. Not because of the mileage, but because of the complexities of the maintenance requirements. |
Im certainly technically capable of doing it myself... but i admit.... Times a little on the short side at the moment.
Truth is, ill probably have to pass on this bike anyway as I wont have the money ready for a few months yet. So i wanted to post to get a good idea... If this one is still around or if another like it comes up... ____________________ Yamaha FZ8/Fazer800 (split headlight one) 2014, gingerly getting used to the massive increase in HP and not killing myself in the process! That was easy to get used to.
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