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Posted: 10:39 - 09 Aug 2022 Post subject: |
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trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote: | |
is any of that actually safety rated ? no mention of it in the listing |
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All great contributions, thanks. I’ve been looking at Motolegends’ YouTube channel which has lots of honest advice too. The Halvarssons brand is currently floating my boat ( BRUN) but it occurred to me that I’ve developed my own system of layering when required (thin Merino jumper underlayer, PVC waterproof overs) so I don’t need one main or mid-layer jacket to do it all, albeit that might be nice at a price, as long as it’s vented.
Halvarssons also sell under the Lindstrand moniker (different range) and I’m looking at the Zagreb jacket. Trying to decide whether I’ll continue to like the brown version which is almost £100 cheaper in some places (so £205). As I understand it the fabric is AA-safety rated, but the armour only A (?). I don’t think there is sleeve or waist adjustment but it either fits or it doesn’t.
I’m off work next week so I’ll visit Bike Stop and OnYerBike. |
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Posted: 10:00 - 10 Aug 2022 Post subject: |
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Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: | All great contributions, thanks. I’ve been looking at Motolegends’ YouTube channel which has lots of honest advice too. The Halvarssons brand is currently floating my boat ( BRUN) but it occurred to me that I’ve developed my own system of layering when required (thin Merino jumper underlayer, PVC waterproof overs) so I don’t need one main or mid-layer jacket to do it all, albeit that might be nice at a price, as long as it’s vented.
Halvarssons also sell under the Lindstrand moniker (different range) and I’m looking at the Zagreb jacket. Trying to decide whether I’ll continue to like the brown version which is almost £100 cheaper in some places (so £205). As I understand it the fabric is AA-safety rated, but the armour only A (?). I don’t think there is sleeve or waist adjustment but it either fits or it doesn’t.
I’m off work next week so I’ll visit Bike Stop and OnYerBike. |
Motolegends will beat anyone elses price by 10%, ive done it many times, also their service is 2nd to none, their YouTube channel is great, are you far from the shop ?
If your all about the layers, consider the Klim Marrakesh, but you will probably want the Klim Zephyr for underneath in early spring/autumn
Also, Halvarssons have just brought out new armour, a bit more like D30 ghost though not quite the same, and its pretty cheap, so dont let the armour put you off, also IIRC armour is rated as level 1 or 2, not A, AA etc, i might have this the wrong way around but i think level 1 is obviously more comfortable but not as impact absorbing, level 2 is better but sacrifice a bit of comfort, if you buy any Halvarssons item with the original armour you will want to swap it out anyway, its pretty stiff |
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I'm a big fan of 3DO. I have it some of my gloves, one pair of casual riding trainers, several jackets and one pair of strides.
I often look out for 2nd hand 3DO armour pieces on ebay so I can upgrade other clothing I have.
I believe it's designed to spread initial impact force over a larger area, all I know is it's really easy to get in and out of armour
pockets, doesn't split like some hard shell armour can and is so flexible that it means I can wear kit that fits SNUG without
discomfort. It's literally the only knee armour I've ever been comfortable wearing for over an hour. I've done the FORTNINE hammer
test, yes you know you've been hit by something but you'd never guess it was a hammerhead. I have a rucksack style forcefield
back protector too. Not rigid as such and slightly better once warm but I've only worn it twice, too much faffery.
3DO and Pinlock are the two best kit innovations in decades IMO. ____________________ Currently enjoying products from Ford, Mazda and Yamaha
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Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: | BRUN wrote: | Motolegends will beat anyone elses price by 10%, ive done it many times, also their service is 2nd to none, their YouTube channel is great, are you far from the shop ?
…if you buy any Halvarssons item with the original armour you will want to swap it out anyway, its pretty stiff |
That last point would grate if I’d just paid their upmarket prices. I’m near Cambridge so Guildford wouldn’t be too far. Bike Stop in Stevenage is close though.
What’s with these small, soft-style back protectors? I thought they were supposed to stop your spine twisting. I have an Alpinestars back protector in a cupboard somewhere which you wear like a rucksack under your jacket, it’s like a flippin’ toboggan, segmented like a woodlouse. It never fitted my back (too long) and I quickly stopped using it. It was quite rigid though. The D3O back protectors are completely different. Is suppression of blunt force impact now the aim, not twist-prevention? Or did I misunderstand the whole thing? |
their near rukka quality gear for half the money or less, replacing elbow armour for another £20 isnt that much of a big deal
and yea the armour your talking about is off road/race stuff by the sounds of it, most of the stuff for on the road is impact absorbtion, they are soft and flexible but upon impact stiffen up |
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Would be my pick of the bunch. ____________________ PRESENT: 2018 BMW S1000XR SE Sport.
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The shop didn’t have my first two short-listed jackets in stock or in my size and I was there to try and buy so I bought the Halvarssons Vansbro jacket. Nice fit and quality feel. It gets noticeably more air through it than my old Wolf jacket. That might be partly due to small cuff vents but also because the central chest vents are clear of rucksack straps. It’s lighter than the old jacket too.
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While Motolegends makes engaging videos, they are commercially-driven. Chris sounds knowledgeable, but his “facts” can be incorrect.
In contrast, I have far more trust in Bennetts BikeSocial reviews:
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products
Usually, Bennetts’ reviews are well-researched and thorough. And Bennetts’ motivations (e.g., reducing rider injuries because it’s an insurance company, not selling gear) are better aligned with ours. |
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to v or not to v wrote: | whats wrong with leather these days? |
I read about this recently and interestingly the outcome is that if you're riding high speed areas with plenty of safe run off areas (think tracks) then leather for sliding distance is great, however the reality for road riding is, if you keep sliding, you're likely to hit something hard (curbs, lampposts, walls, etc etc) which will cause you severe damage.
Textile clothing is designed to address this problem, it specifically "grabs" the surface and brings you to a stop as quickly as possible. It doesn't wear as well in a slide as leather, but it's designed to stop you quickly and therefore not need to slide so long, whilst at the same time hopefully stopping you before you've run out of space and collide with the hard obstruction.
Leather is perceived as "better" because we see all the super speed racers wearing it, however, they are riding in an environment that is suited to leather, specifically designed to keep sliding without colliding with obstructions! But for the road environment, it's generally the case that textile clothing of decent standard (AA or AAA) are more suitable. ____________________ Current: BMW R1200 RT (2011) (Previous Bikes: Kawasaki GPX600 / Yamaha YZF600 Thundercat / Yamaha Fazer / Honda ST100 Pan-European / BMW R1200 GS |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 1 year, 225 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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