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I think it might depend on which model of SV650 too. My missus has a 2007 SV and one of my mates had a 2013 (I think) ER6F, and of the two, I'd take the ER6 every time.
I don't really have any individual bikes I regret missing out on. I wish I'd bought a 250 two stroke in the early 2000s when you could get a nice one for about £1500, but I just didn't have the money. I've missed out on loads of bikes by procrastinating too long, but that's probably been for the best. The last couple of bikes I've bought I didn't procrastinate, because I knew what I wanted, recognised it when I saw it, and pulled the trigger. ____________________ Current - '94 VFR750FR, '00 VFR800FI Previous - '10 Street Triple R, '92 MZ ETZ301, '05 TTR250, NSR125R, KMX125, "Honda" Win (chinese copy of an old Honda design with a C90 engine)
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2008: My teenage son was ready to upgrade from the 4 speed vespa that I taught him to ride on. We went to check out a 1989 Honda VTR250. They called them "Barbie-cycles" in the states because Honda made them with a godawful white-teal-pink paint job. Only imported them for two years, probably because Honda blew the paint scheme so badly. "No way I'm ever riding that thing!" says junior.
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OK, well, we came all the way out here, lets at least take it for a ride... HOLY MOLY this thing can fly! Faster than any 500 I'd ever ridden, I had it over 90mph with more on tap. Junior was non plussed, but Dad was smitten. Let's check this thing out a little more carefully. What!? No oil in the sight glass! The owner was really embarrassed. "I, I, I, don't know what to say. I never saw it get this low before." Needless to say, that was the end of that.
But Dad tasted the Kool Aid. I went on a year-long mission to find a decent, roadworthy VTR250. I found 3 in total; every single one of them had a low oil level. Two of the owners didn't even know how to check the oil. How can that be? How can anyone put a bike up for sale without checking the basic maintenance items that a prospective buyer would look at (cable adjustment, chain tension, tire condition, oil level?) How? Eventually I lost interest in the prospect of being a VTR250 owner. Sadly, to paraphrase Pink Floyd, "the child has grown, the dream is gone."
Best 250 Honda ever made, in my opinion, but they really missed the mark in the marketing department. Honda binned the Barbie look and continued to sell them in the Australian market until 2018, lucky bastards. Even today, fourteen years later, when I see a VTR250 on the street or online, I wistfully think to myself.. "what if...".  ____________________ History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of men - BOC |
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I don't think there has been one for me. Most of the time, I was able to buy the bikes I wanted at any given time, inasmuch as if something took my fancy, I got it (including an RG500 ).
My "regrets", if there have been any, are more to do with not being able to afford some of the bikes I would have liked to have tried, which mostly boils down to Italian stuff, from the days of the Jota, early Ducati 900SS, Montjuic etc, up to more modern fare.
Oh, and I never did get around to putting a turbocharger on a nicely modded muscle bike back in the day. The bike I bought to do it with got wiped out (along with the rider I let have a go on it) before I got a chance. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Islander wrote: | A Laverda Jota in for £1500 in the late 90s.
Dammit! |
You had to have them in their time. Even if you had the money for one now, there's too much chance of tainting those rose tinted specs, or wrecking the legend. There are very few, if any, older bikes I'd be interested in actually owning today, certainly as far as pre-90s goes. I would imagine that if you've had the pick of the crop later than that, that would extend to later still.
But what post-90s bikes have had a legend built up around them? Maybe the Street Triple? Any others? Anything out there new now, that might be looked back on with the kind of awe that some bikes used to inspire? Any that folks might regret not trying if they leave it too long?
Most of the top end bikes now seem a little too 'same-y' to me, nothing absolutely outstanding for one or two to rise above the crowd.
The best of the old 2Ts I think will always be worth a go now they're almost extinct, just for the novelty if nothing else. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I had actually ridden a friend's Jota in the 70s so I would have been going into the deal with my eyes wide open. |
Would you own one today? For the bike itself I mean, assuming you had the money spare and didn't care about the current values, i.e. not bothered about one as an investment (and of course assuming you could get spares when needed)?
They were definitely on my wishlist once upon a time, and maybe I'd like to ride one if offered the chance, but not bothered about ever owning one now. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Islander wrote: | I'd never buy a bike as an investment - they're meant to be ridden and enjoyed, not polished and guarded. |
I'm absolutely in agreement with you on that one as far as personal ownership goes.
I would however like to see a motorcycle museum in this country that had good examples preserved for posterity, of all the bikes we have ridden after the days of the old Brit iron of the 50s and 60s (which seem to be fairly well represented in various places). ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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chickenstrip wrote: | Islander wrote: |
I had actually ridden a friend's Jota in the 70s so I would have been going into the deal with my eyes wide open. |
Would you own one today? For the bike itself I mean, assuming you had the money spare and didn't care about the current values, i.e. not bothered about one as an investment (and of course assuming you could get spares when needed)?
They were definitely on my wishlist once upon a time, and maybe I'd like to ride one if offered the chance, but not bothered about ever owning one now. |
I've had this conversation so many times, about bikes and cars.
I'm lucky enough, via various jobs and contacts, to have ridden/driven and/or owned a lot of the stuff that is now considered a 'classic' and, TBH, most of them I wouldn't want again.
Technology has moved on so much in the last 40 years, the vehicles of yesteryear really can't hold a candle to what's going on today. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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Shaft wrote: |
I've had this conversation so many times, about bikes and cars.
I'm lucky enough, via various jobs and contacts, to have ridden/driven and/or owned a lot of the stuff that is now considered a 'classic' and, TBH, most of them I wouldn't want again.
Technology has moved on so much in the last 40 years, the vehicles of yesteryear really can't hold a candle to what's going on today. |
There are a few that I would like to ride again (not necessarily own), that still stand out as having been different/special. The experience of riding them would still be fairly unique - GPz750 Turbo, RG500 spring to mind. As long as you didn't expect modern bike handling, although with the RG, if you upgraded the suspension they'd probably still be fun.
With the turbo, I'd probably want a little more oomph, but they're never going to be much more than a straight line bike. It's just the character of the power delivery that I haven't felt in anything else since. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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A 'new old stock' Kawasaki H2 750 (triple, not IL4) I saw sat at the back of a bike shop 30 years ago. Only wanted £2,999 for it. Would be worth 18k today in that condition. ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
Gone (in order of ownership) - Raleigh Runabout, AP50, KH125, GP125, KH250, CBX550, Z400, CB750FII, 250LC, GS550, ZXR750H1, Guzzi Targa, GSX750F, KH250 x2, Bimota SB6R and counting... |
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jeffyjeff wrote: | 2008: My teenage son was ready to upgrade from the 4 speed vespa that I taught him to ride on. We went to check out a 1989 Honda VTR250. They called them "Barbie-cycles" in the states because Honda made them with a godawful white-teal-pink paint job. Only imported them for two years, probably because Honda blew the paint scheme so badly. "No way I'm ever riding that thing!" says junior.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52219670523_148b09ab03_w.jpg
OK, well, we came all the way out here, lets at least take it for a ride... HOLY MOLY this thing can fly! Faster than any 500 I'd ever ridden, I had it over 90mph with more on tap. Junior was non plussed, but Dad was smitten. Let's check this thing out a little more carefully. What!? No oil in the sight glass! The owner was really embarrassed. "I, I, I, don't know what to say. I never saw it get this low before." Needless to say, that was the end of that.
But Dad tasted the Kool Aid. I went on a year-long mission to find a decent, roadworthy VTR250. I found 3 in total; every single one of them had a low oil level. Two of the owners didn't even know how to check the oil. How can that be? How can anyone put a bike up for sale without checking the basic maintenance items that a prospective buyer would look at (cable adjustment, chain tension, tire condition, oil level?) How? Eventually I lost interest in the prospect of being a VTR250 owner. Sadly, to paraphrase Pink Floyd, "the child has grown, the dream is gone."
Best 250 Honda ever made, in my opinion, but they really missed the mark in the marketing department. Honda binned the Barbie look and continued to sell them in the Australian market until 2018, lucky bastards. Even today, fourteen years later, when I see a VTR250 on the street or online, I wistfully think to myself.. "what if...".  |
I had a jap import one of them in a much nicer red & whitecolour scheme. Bought it in the mid-90's off a guy in Stratford who could have been Sickpup's twin.
Stonkin' bike for a 250. Peaky almost like a 2 stroke with decent mid-range and a wicked hard cammy sounding engine. My dad rode it for a while and even though he (at the time) had no time for non-British bikes he fell in love with it too.
Glad I owned that one I'd have one again but they are rare as hen's teeth and the engines have a million moving parts. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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I don't really have any that I regret not buying. Usually bought them if I liked them. Addictive personality. That makes it not my fault.
Would have loved an RD350LC. I fell in love when I was younger after I saw someone wheelieing for the first time, I was about 14, never forget it. Was so impressed. Guy was in the local motor gang, badder minehof. I liked Lambretta and Vespa scooters back then as I was a mod. In 1983. |
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The last post was made 2 years, 295 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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