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Posted: 13:25 - 20 Jul 2022 Post subject: |
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chickenstrip wrote: | blurredman wrote: | They can be fun in their own way. But all my riding is commuting. At the minute the one that does mid 70's mpg average is my main machine for economy purposes. |
What do you find to be their main downsides for commuting? Do you think it could be fixed with a new, modern design? |
I'm not sure the question is right. My bikes were designed as commuter/every day machines.
The one bike, the main downside may or may not be the four speed box. I mean, it's got torque and it took some time to get used to, but it's very tempermental trying to get it in gear. Not smooth at all- it's like trying to drive a car without synchromesh on any gears. Momentum can be lost easily just trying to change gears. Oh well. ____________________ CBT: 12/06/10, Theory: 22/09/10, Module 1: 09/11/10, Module 2: 19/01/11
Past: 1991 Honda CG125BR-J, 1992 (1980) Honda XL125S, 1996 Kawasaki GPZ500S.
Current: 1981 Honda CX500B - 91k, 1987 MZ ETZ250 (bored to 295cc) - 38k, 1990 MZ ETZ251 - 49k, 1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 9k, 1972 MZ ES250/2 - 17k. |
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Posted: 13:34 - 20 Jul 2022 Post subject: |
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blurredman wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: |
What do you find to be their main downsides for commuting? Do you think it could be fixed with a new, modern design? |
I'm not sure the question is right. My bikes were designed as commuter/every day machines.
The one bike, the main downside may or may not be the four speed box. I mean, it's got torque and it took some time to get used to, but it's very tempermental trying to get it in gear. Not smooth at all- it's like trying to drive a car without synchromesh on any gears. Momentum can be lost easily just trying to change gears. Oh well. |
Yes, but as you note, that doesn't mean the design worked as intended ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Posted: 14:24 - 20 Jul 2022 Post subject: |
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chickenstrip wrote: |
Yes, but as you note, that doesn't mean the design worked as intended |
True, but that's the fault the world that has changed around the machine... ____________________ CBT: 12/06/10, Theory: 22/09/10, Module 1: 09/11/10, Module 2: 19/01/11
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Current: 1981 Honda CX500B - 91k, 1987 MZ ETZ250 (bored to 295cc) - 38k, 1990 MZ ETZ251 - 49k, 1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 9k, 1972 MZ ES250/2 - 17k. |
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I don't want a vintage 2 stroke - been there, done that. They were good at the time but I've grown used to reliability, handling and all the other things that modern bikes offer. That being said I rode relatively modern KTM 2 stroke enduro bikes for 10 years and loved every minute of it. They would happily chug along in a high gear and take off like a scalded cat when on the pipe.
I often wondered what a modern 3 or 4 cylinder 750 or 1000 with power valves direct injection etc would be like if some company was bold enough to go down that road.
Would I buy one? That is a good question |
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Enduro Numpty wrote: | I don't want a vintage 2 stroke - been there, done that. They were good at the time but I've grown used to reliability, handling and all the other things that modern bikes offer. |
I think I would have another classic if it was well sorted, but agree with you that I'd much prefer modern bike handling and reliability.
Quote: | I often wondered what a modern 3 or 4 cylinder 750 or 1000 with power valves direct injection etc would be like if some company was bold enough to go down that road. |
Completely nuts I would imagine ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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There would be three in my lotto win garage, a very late RD400 in white, a candy blue 350LC with fairing and belly pan and a disc braked GT750. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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I'm with you on the RD400, never got to try one of those. The GT range never appealed to me for some reason. And I never tried an RD500LC, but don't think it would be better than the RG. They look gorgeous though. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I loved all my old smokers.
Off road , my old Bultaco Pursang was my favourite, for a 250 it was bat-shit mental and as strong as an ox .
On the road my rd 250 lc always performed well and in my opinion punched above it’s weight.
I’m trying to have less bikes ,not more and I’m skint!
So sadly no new addition to my garage, even a smoker . ____________________ I am the sum total of my own existence, what went before makes me who I am now!
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chickenstrip wrote: | I'm with you on the RD400, never got to try one of those. The GT range never appealed to me for some reason. And I never tried an RD500LC, but don't think it would be better than the RG. They look gorgeous though. |
I didn't own a 400, but I did have a 250F with a 350 top end and I absolutely loved it, in fact I probably prefer them to an LC, but there's something about the look of the later bike that really does it for me.
As for the GT750, it was the first really big bike I ever rode and I thought it was superb, but they don't perform in the same way as most strokers, so they tend to be rather frowned upon by the boy racers.
Plus there's nothing that sounds like a kettle (standard pipes only please, none of your crackly old spannies) in the same way there's nothing as good as the deep burble of a heavyweight UJM with a shorty Harris. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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MY old GT185 used to be good for a shit eating grin. I'd happily give my left nut for an H2 widow maker, the rest of me would possibly be reunited with that nut shortly thereafter.
As for MCN's point, anyone still daft enough to think that politicians have the mettle to do what it takes to stop us killing the planet is living in cloud cuckoo land. Face it, we're fucked, we might as well enjoy it before we burn to a crisp. ____________________ Make mine a Corona. |
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mentalboy wrote: | Face it, we're fucked, we might as well enjoy it before we burn to a crisp. |
That Kool Aid tastes good, huh? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I’d have one again, even if they are peaky grenades on wheels. The RGV250 was going to be my first “big” bike when an air cooled Divvy 600 came along at half the price. Polar opposite of the Suzuki. What was I thinking?
I do own a 429cc twin cylinder two stroke, but it’s an outboard. Still gives me my 2 smoke fix and it goes like stink. ____________________ 2007 CBF1000-ABS - Commuter heaven | 1994 CBR600FR - Awaiting defibrillation |
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Serendipity wrote: |
I do own a 429cc twin cylinder two stroke, but it’s an outboard. Still gives me my 2 smoke fix and it goes like stink. |
Is it a relatively new model? I think I read somewhere that this was an area where 2T development had continued? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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It's a 2005 Mariner Marathon built by Tohatsu so it's got solid Japanese build quality, but not exactly new tech.
You can't buy new two stroke outboards for private use any more. You can only buy them for commercial use. Saving the planet, etc...
2nd hand is fine, but because of the power to weight ratio of the smaller engines they really hold their value.
The four strokes are catching up though. There's still a weight penalty for an equivalent power, but they're quieter and sip petrol. ____________________ 2007 CBF1000-ABS - Commuter heaven | 1994 CBR600FR - Awaiting defibrillation |
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mentalboy wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: |
That Kool Aid tastes good, huh? |
Says the bloke stuck in the middle of record high heats. |
It has been nice where I am. You must be thinking of that dump for the dregs of humanity, London. Have you forgotten that London isn't all of the UK?
Let's get more two strokes on the road, then maybe London will just melt into a puddle and we can be shot of it ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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