When is a war not a war?

[Polarbear]

I really am confused with this Russia/Ukraine crap.

If I fight a war, I fight to win. I don't give deals to people to remove grain.I sell it to any country thet wants it and will pay me, and many will pay.
When we fought the 2nd world war we didn't say it was not nice to use any overrun comodities.

I really think there is some tin foil hat things happening here.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62268070
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[Diggs]

Ahh, but remember that it suited both sides in WW1 and WW2 to keep an unencumbered trading facility, i.e. Switzerland. Money is always more important than war.
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[Kawasaki Jimbo]

It’s about Russia side-stepping the international community’s anger when grain shortages bring high prices and starvation to the rest of the world. “Not our fault, we signed a deal allowing exports.” I wouldn’t trust them though.

[Irezumi]

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[MCN]

If Poo-Tin has any involvement in anything then it is simple man's propaganda.

He is shite at diplomacy so resorts to type.
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[chickenstrip]

[Easy-X]

What of the video on Rhyno's thread: that in a generation the Russians won't have the conscripts available to fight a major war limited security action as the age demographics are shifting against them

Plus Putin gets all misty eyed about the old Soviet Empire days, the iron curtain surrounding Russia is utterly shattered on its western border - NATO creeping eastward - when along comes the weakest American president possibly in history with his hand firmly in the Ukrainian till.

Way too many ppl knew this would happen in the smoke* filled back rooms IMHO.

*I doubt they have switched to vaping.
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[M.C]

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[Easy-X]

[MCN]

[Pete.]

[Easy-X]

[Im-a-Ridah]

Nobody fights wars anymore, they fight "interventions" and "special operations". Officially the Russians are there to de-Nazify Ukraine and so for them they are willing to do deals on particular issues. Obviously from our perspective its just a land grab by invasion aka a war.

[Easy-X]

I wonder how many Russian nuclear ICBMs are actually operational? No where near as many as they'd like to brag if they're maintained as well as their Ukraine invasion vehicles

https://youtu.be/LNC0YwuGLqg
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[Im-a-Ridah]

[Easy-X]

I'm starting to wonder if the whole point is to burn out the Russian war machine early

"Joe, we got Vlad on the phone..."

I really hope the puppeteers aren't so naïvely optimistic.
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[M.C]

[Easy-X]

[Kawasaki Jimbo]

The ruling elite or whatever you want to call them are of course all doing very nicely thank you, so I don’t understand the argument that they’d want to bring it all down.

[chickenstrip]

[Kawasaki Jimbo]

That’s my point, in the current system we are the service providers, why would they want to mess that up? In reality there is no evil genius cabal, global economies are too complex to manage in any way except reactively with crisis management.

[chickenstrip]

[Pete.]