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chickenstrip
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PostPosted: 15:21 - 04 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
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The monkey pox one might actually work if it stays in place Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:41 - 04 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reports of this now spreading to children suggesting it is airborne. Would make sense seeming as it is a poxvirus which are known to transmit via droplets. So can be from airborne or skin to skin contact.

Also, believed to have originated from rodents. Thought to have been around for thousands of years. In and of itself nothing to be worried about.

Bigger concern is that various virus' seem to be transmitting more consistently and further now. Could be due to mutations of virus, encroaching on animal environments exposing people to greater transmission and a heightened recent desire to detect everything. Probably a combination of all three.

Worrying that everything is being declared as dangerous, or whatever their terminology is, by the WHO as desensitising population to risks. When something comes along which is significantly bad and is ignored then the effects could be devastating, or beneficial depending on your viewpoint.
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PostPosted: 16:09 - 04 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Irezumi wrote:
Reports of this now spreading to children suggesting it is airborne.


Errr, that's one explanation. Just curious, what do you see here:

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article8916358.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/bouteille-a-la-mer.jpg
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 04 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Irezumi wrote:


Worrying that everything is being declared as dangerous, or whatever their terminology is, by the WHO as desensitising population to risks.


Are you kidding?! Folks nowadays are afraid of their own shadows!
The various health authorities have lost trust. That is not the fault of the population at large. It is largely a consequence of not allowing free discussion of issues. If you can't speak, you can't have clear and proper thinking, and censorship has been happening within those authorities as well as in many media sources and the wider population. Science NEEDS to be challenged if it is going to be at all effective.

It isn't for us laymen to offer those challenges, but they should come from within the scientific community itself, but that community is failing us. If a hypothesis or theory goes unquestioned, you know something is wrong.
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 04 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
The various health authorities have lost trust. That is not the fault of the population at large. It is largely a consequence of not allowing free discussion of issues. If you can't speak, you can't have clear and proper thinking, and censorship has been happening within those authorities as well as in many media sources and the wider population. Science NEEDS to be challenged if it is going to be at all effective.

It isn't for us laymen to offer those challenges, but they should come from within the scientific community itself, but that community is failing us. If a hypothesis or theory goes unquestioned, you know something is wrong.

By 'desensitising' I mean through WHO being alarmist people will eventually become immune to any warnings, don't think I made that clear. Or overly cautious as you rightly point out. Neither extreme is particularly good for population health, or in general, long term.

I agree that trust has been lost within health authorities and science at large. Various reasons for this that I'm sure everyone is aware of, certainly not the fault of population, no. Feel we're at a stage where we're throwing out the baby with the bathwater now though and everything is refuted regardless if there is a consensus or not.

Agree completely science should be challenged. This should be done with rigorous assessment of the methodologies of published research and recreation of said research to confer results, or not.

I think a bigger issue with science and healthcare in general is not really the science itself but the communication of it. This is very poorly managed and allows those with vested interests, or who just wish to be contrarian, a way to mislead and obfuscate original research.

Anyway, digressed slightly away from monkeypox there.
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PostPosted: 08:19 - 05 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not a gay disease - but LGBT Lobbyist Groups.

It's not an STD - but Sexual Health Charities.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62425720

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In an open letter to Health Secretary Steven Barclay, they say that without a quicker and wider vaccine rollout, the virus could become "endemic".


I wonder why it is that they're really concerned, and I'm not Thinking

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The Terrence Higgins Trust, which co-wrote the letter, says the rollout needs to be speeded up across the UK to help combat "fear and anxiety" within the LGBT community.


Vaccinations to combat fear and anxiety - I thought they combatted the disease Rolling Eyes

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serious risk to health and will exacerbate the health inequalities already experienced by gay and bisexual men and other men who have sex with men.


Yay we've got the buzzword inequalities. And who are these other men who have sex with men? What is this word salad?

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Alex Smith, a civil servant from Manchester, considers himself to be in a high-risk category for acquiring monkeypox.


Why does he consider himself high risk? Thinking

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Alex received a jab in London, where he was visiting to attend a Lady Gaga concert


Oh OK Laughing

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He was vaccinated at a clinic in London while visiting for the weekend, after struggling to get one closer to home for several weeks.

He told the BBC: "I was in London for the weekend and found out via Twitter that a clinic in Hammersmith was offering the vaccine, so I called about 20 times and finally got through to someone and got an appointment."

While he's aware the vaccine isn't 100% effective in preventing monkeypox, Alex says it's a relief when heading to Pride events that he has some protection.

He added: "Now that I've got my jab I feel much more reassured. The minute that needle went in, it was like a huge weight being lifted off my mind.

"I'm really fortunate that I was already in London and able to get one. There are lots of people who just aren't in my position - people who either can't afford a train or can't get down there for whatever reason. It makes me quite angry that some people don't seem to be getting an adequate service who might be at high risk."


Christ we've got a country full of wet wipes.
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 05 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

"At high risk" or "taking high risks" Thinking

Remember when morality was a thing?
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PostPosted: 12:23 - 05 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
"At high risk" or "taking high risks" Thinking

Remember when morality was a thing?


Progressive! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 16 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Dog catches monkeypox from owners in first suspected human-to-pet transmission, say researchers'

Thousand-yard stare...
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 24 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thing could be a lot worse than we all thought. Some Italian guy has simultaneously contracted monkeypox, covid and HIV Shocked

What a bummer!
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 05 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say the far worse risk would be from people getting offended by the name.
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