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PostPosted: 21:52 - 25 Nov 2016    Post subject: Lexmoto venom Reply with quote

Right after 20 years I decided to get the VENOM.

Banging my head now on the wall.

1. The petrol on/off lever, impossible to use unless I am on the floor praying to allah, but achievable, not talking to Allah but turning the tap.
2. The pipe from the petrol to the carb, short, fell off after a little tug.
3. The headlight bulb blown after 230 miles. second one 10 miles.

The chain markings are a nightmare to read when the chain needs tightening.
I though after 20 years technology would of moved forward. MY TZR 125 was far superior to this venom. The only blessing is a MP3 player. Thumbs Up

Anyone else here stupid enough to of got a venom?
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 25 Nov 2016    Post subject: Re: Lexmoto venom Reply with quote

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Anyone else here stupid enough to of got a venom?


I made a thread about one a while ago while I had my Lexmoto Arrow, possibly IIRC with the interest of swapping out to one, but no I didn't buy one. MP3 player, all this time on, just screams as an un-needed gimmick and wouldn't be surprised if it causes some form of electrical problems along the way.. wiring isn't the best let alone adding more.

Do your test and upgrade would be my advice. Don't put up with it longer than you have to.

Never had any of those issues while I had my Arrow, backs up my advice of Arrow/Vixen and avoid the new-er ones until they've proved themselves.. I'm yet to hear of one that has.

Mechanic showed me markings on the swingarm but I wouldn't trust them you're better of measuring from axle to adjuster or is it swingarm pivot point (near engine) to axle, different methods I'm sure.

Plus points of the Lexmoto's are that they're cheap to service, run, maintain, clean, work on, legit-weight.. it's really as easy in as simple of a package as it comes but after a while I wanted to move on.

One thing I don't miss is doing 30mph (so the dash said) and having cars overtake me and up me arse all the time. Only been two commutes on the ZR but it seems, not to delude myself, it has more road presence and cars would rather sit back than try it on. I also don't miss the inability to overtake, I think you could probably count on both hands, maybe one, how many times I overtook someone on the Arrow compared to tonight of how easy it was to just roll on the throttle and you're away past the object you want to be. Lovely jubly.

Expect rust on the exhaust, to loose a lot of money when you come to P/X or sell, many problems and you wont be dissapointed during your ownership. I'm not talking badly because I've gotten rid of my Lexmoto but simply because by the end of it all, which was only last week, I'd gotten so fed up I gave up caring all together.

Best of luck during your ownership.

Any plans to upgrade or swap out?
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 25 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 22:18 - 25 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

'Venom' is poison innit ?.
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PostPosted: 22:20 - 25 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

They've put in a stereo and a gear indicator but not bothered with a fuel gauge?

I'm assuming they're using an old engine from Honda or the like, low output air cooled single, so it can't really go far wrong.

As above, resale is terrible. £1700~ new and there's one advertised at the bottom of the page for me for £900 and it's less than a year old with 400 on the clock.
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PostPosted: 06:55 - 26 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They've put in a stereo and a gear indicator but not bothered with a fuel gauge?

I'm assuming they're using an old engine from Honda or the like, low output air cooled single, so it can't really go far wrong.

As above, resale is terrible. £1700~ new and there's one advertised at the bottom of the page for me for £900 and it's less than a year old with 400 on the clock.


there's is a fuel gauge on the venom.

Noticing that too. Looks like I lost alot of money, gambled and lost, typical.
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PostPosted: 06:56 - 26 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ed Case wrote:
'Venom' is poison innit ?.


It is, and I have certainly been poisoned by lexmoto.
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PostPosted: 08:04 - 26 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

lifesucks wrote:
there's is a fuel gauge on the venom


Misread what you put above. Where you were on about the fuel tap I thought you meant a tank/reserve tap.
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PostPosted: 08:38 - 26 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

A stereo?

"An additional feature which is sure to turn heads is the implementation of an MP3 player and speakers which enable you to listen to your favourite songs via a USB or MicroSD card, controlled via a panel on top of the fuel tank. Get ready to experience the next cult bike!"

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That's terrible! Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 26 Nov 2016    Post subject: Re: Lexmoto venom Reply with quote

lifesucks wrote:
Right after 20 years I decided to get the VENOM.
Banging my head now on the wall.


Assuming you bought a 125 because you don't have your full licence, You should really take this as a sign that you made a mistake.
The cure is 'Do your full licence and get a better (bigger) bike'...
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 26 Nov 2016    Post subject: Re: Lexmoto venom Reply with quote

Alpineandy wrote:
lifesucks wrote:
Right after 20 years I decided to get the VENOM.
Banging my head now on the wall.


Assuming you bought a 125 because you don't have your full licence, You should really take this as a sign that you made a mistake.
The cure is 'Do your full licence and get a better (bigger) bike'...


I have a full licence, but I am poor. Mr. Green

I thought after 20 odd years the technology would of made better bikes and stuff. I was rightish. I don't mind the 125cc, if I got a bigger bike I would be dead, I am a nutter Karma £160 a year on insurance, shite but better than the bus.
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 26 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
A stereo?

"An additional feature which is sure to turn heads is the implementation of an MP3 player and speakers which enable you to listen to your favourite songs via a USB or MicroSD card, controlled via a panel on top of the fuel tank. Get ready to experience the next cult bike!"

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That's terrible! Laughing


I disagree, if I was young again I would love a bike with music to play on it. This was one of my reasons to buy the bike with an MP3 player on it. I love music and sitting at 50mph, nice to listen to something.
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PostPosted: 13:19 - 26 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

dydey90 wrote:
lifesucks wrote:
there's is a fuel gauge on the venom


Misread what you put above. Where you were on about the fuel tap I thought you meant a tank/reserve tap.


No worries. The tap is pathetic, my older bikes had a much better tap, and properly worded, on/off/reserve. I mean the tanks bottom is at the bottom where the tap should be, and the pipe should be as close to the carb, this ones pipe just didn't fit right or feel right as it came off with a bit of a tug.
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 26 Nov 2016    Post subject: Re: Lexmoto venom Reply with quote

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I have a full licence, but I am poor. Mr. Green

I thought after 20 odd years the technology would of made better bikes and stuff. I was rightish. I don't mind the 125cc, if I got a bigger bike I would be dead, I am a nutter Karma £160 a year on insurance, shite but better than the bus.


A new Chink 125 or a second had Japanese Thinking

I am really tempted to buy a brand new Chinese bike and do exactly the same as I do to my other bikes maintenance wise, and then document every fault on a timeline. I wonder if I would even get back from the dealers.
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PostPosted: 13:49 - 26 Nov 2016    Post subject: Re: Lexmoto venom Reply with quote

lifesucks wrote:
I have a full licence, but I am poor. Mr. Green
I thought after 20 odd years the technology would of made better bikes and stuff. I was rightish. I don't mind the 125cc, if I got a bigger bike I would be dead, I am a nutter Karma £160 a year on insurance, shite but better than the bus.

It must have been a very cheap bike as a larger one wouldn't have the '125' premium that goes with most of the CBT level bikes.
Also £160 per year doesn't sound special to me.
125s are generally more expensive to insure than something bigger (but sensible Laughing ).
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 26 Nov 2016    Post subject: Re: Lexmoto venom Reply with quote

lifesucks wrote:
I though after 20 years technology would of moved forward. MY TZR 125 was far superior to this venom.

It has... but small thunk for you... your Lexmoto, brand new in the showroom yesterday, almost certainly has a sticker price on it less than your old TZR did when that was factory fresh, and ready for the road. ISTR that they were £1,700 ish for the half fared version when launched in what, '88? They were £2K by 1990..... how much has the price of a pint of beer, a pack of fags or a mars bar gone up since then?

TZR was the flag-ship learner-legal in it's day; equivalent now would be Yamaha's YZF-R125, which has a brand new sticker price of about £4.5K.. quids pro an aged mono-tune rock band, that's about the original show room price of a TZR125 x quarter of a century's worth of inflation.

TZR, though was relatively 'simple' to make two stroke; technological advances of the last quarter century then have mostly been in 'value engineering', which is when the marketing team walk into the engineering department and say "Yeah! But make it CHEAPER!".. which they have done, and significantly, in order to compensate for having to make it a four stroke and have five times the number of bits to make and put together to meet 'emissions controls'.

Your Lexmoto, would more reasonably compare, not even to a Honda CG125 from twenty odd years ago, and which probably wasn't many pennies cheaper than then than Lexmoto is now, but east german an MZ125ETZ, or even Soviet era CZ125.. I seem to recall that the CZ125 was advertsed in 1990 brand new for £299, the MZ, slightly more 'fairly' with OTR charges for £499... that would be around £1500 in modern money...

ON WHICH note (sic!) Who else has noted the similarity between the 'new' fiver and the 'old' green one pound note, in both size and colour!?!? And whats with the bludy see through bit?!?!? But I detract....

For, which you would have probably had to suffer even more sub-standard performance, idiosyncratic AC-Direct 6v lighting, and even more frequently blown bulbs, as well as 'curious' controls; particularly on the CZ with it's combined gear-lever/kick starter!

But point is you're not exactly making a a fair comparison; comparing a 'new' budget price utility commuter, with an old top of the range 'sports' 125. And technology HAS moved on.. unfortunately most of it hasn't been in the areas of performance or user convenience, but in meeting regulatory requirements and cost cutting.

Count your blessings... at least you have an electric boot on the Lexmoto! THAT'S progress for you!
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PostPosted: 15:53 - 26 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Count your blessings... at least you have an electric boot on the Lexmoto! THAT'S progress for you!


I used to love kick start when I was younger, less to go wrong.

The more technology, the more it goes wrong and expensive it is to repair. Tzr125 was simple, and reliable, even on a cold morning it started with ease. This four stroke takes ages to warm up and cuts out to quickly, a nightmare when a roundabout is coming up.

'it's going to cut out, it's going to cut out' Sick
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PostPosted: 16:46 - 26 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

lifesucks wrote:
Tzr125 was simple, and reliable, even on a cold morning it started with ease. This four stroke takes ages to warm up and cuts out to quickly, a nightmare when a roundabout is coming up.

You're doing it again.... it's still probably 'better' than a CZ125, and at least it doesn't oil up the plug.
Buy a water-cooled & fuel injected YZF-R125, and likely it'll start and run with as few glitches as the TZR did....

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Count your blessings... at least you have an electric boot on the Lexmoto! THAT'S progress for you!

I used to love kick start when I was younger, less to go wrong.

I think you need to polish your rose tinted spex on that one, mate!

I unfortunately still recall the number of kick-starters that stripped their splines, or lost their rubbers or their pedals even! Snapped their return springs and had to be held up with string or coat hangers. The number of primary drive covers I had to remove to 'un-jam' starter mechanisms pie eating mates put all thier mass on with too much enthusiasm, etc etc etc! In the last, twenty years, only issue I have had with e-starters has been a duff battery or three, and a couple of cases or worn out brushes.... on bikes over 20 years old!!! I'd say that on the whole e-starters TEND to be pretty 'reliable' and less hassle!

And BOY do I appreciate NOT having to jump up and down on a lever at my age!
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PostPosted: 17:16 - 26 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
lifesucks wrote:
Tzr125 was simple, and reliable, even on a cold morning it started with ease. This four stroke takes ages to warm up and cuts out to quickly, a nightmare when a roundabout is coming up.

You're doing it again.... it's still probably 'better' than a CZ125, and at least it doesn't oil up the plug.
Buy a water-cooled & fuel injected YZF-R125, and likely it'll start and run with as few glitches as the TZR did....

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Count your blessings... at least you have an electric boot on the Lexmoto! THAT'S progress for you!

I used to love kick start when I was younger, less to go wrong.

I think you need to polish your rose tinted spex on that one, mate!

I unfortunately still recall the number of kick-starters that stripped their splines, or lost their rubbers or their pedals even! Snapped their return springs and had to be held up with string or coat hangers. The number of primary drive covers I had to remove to 'un-jam' starter mechanisms pie eating mates put all thier mass on with too much enthusiasm, etc etc etc! In the last, twenty years, only issue I have had with e-starters has been a duff battery or three, and a couple of cases or worn out brushes.... on bikes over 20 years old!!! I'd say that on the whole e-starters TEND to be pretty 'reliable' and less hassle!

And BOY do I appreciate NOT having to jump up and down on a lever at my age!


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PostPosted: 19:58 - 26 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hang on a minute
you buy a cheap bike, get a few piddling issues and complain?
Did it burst into flames or the wheels fall off?

One of my lads got a Lexmoto Arrow about a year ago for £945 OTR and it's fine
apart from coughing a bit in wet weather due to the iffy weather proofing on some of the electrical connectors which
we'll sort out ourselves soon.
Its used daily in all weathers for his shift work and we cant honestly complain for that money
Its coping with living outdoors too, no rust or peeling paint.
The simple CG clone lump doesn't get the adrenaline pumping but who cares? its a 125

MP3 player on a bike?
pfft!
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 26 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hang on a minute
you buy a cheap bike, get a few piddling issues and complain?
Did it burst into flames or the wheels fall off?


We don't complain enough, this is why things are so bad.

Would you goto a hotel and just sleep in a bed full of condoms?

*better not complain* "at least we get to sleep on a bed"


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One of my lads got a Lexmoto Arrow about a year ago for £945 OTR and it's fine


Good for you.

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apart from coughing a bit in wet weather due to the iffy weather proofing on some of the electrical connectors which
we'll sort out ourselves soon.


Good for you.

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Its used daily in all weathers for his shift work and we cant honestly complain for that money


Sounds like you never complain and are good slaves.

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Its coping with living outdoors too, no rust or peeling paint.
The simple CG clone lump doesn't get the adrenaline pumping but who cares? its a 125


Yeah, who cares... Rolling Eyes

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MP3 player on a bike?
pfft!
("It were all fields round here when I were lad etc " rant deleted)


It's a gimmick to sell the bike. Music, people love music.
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PostPosted: 02:39 - 27 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lexmoto comes with a two year guarantee, so just take the bike to the garage to get things sorted, at least the pipe and the bulbs, can put a bit of color coded tape on the fuel tap to make it clearer, or just red hot branded it, the later probably will sort all the problems.
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PostPosted: 13:06 - 27 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't pay Lexmoto for dealer servicing just to maintain a notional warranty.

Bulbs are consumables. Although blowing that fast sounds like an electrical issue - check the connectors, main earth and the fuse is good (depending on how it's wired, it may actually run fine even with the main fuse loose).

Chap who parks up near me got one, it was looking in a sorry state after just one winter, so I'd get some ACF-50 on it ASAP.

Nice looking bikes, but I wouldn't pay a premium for one over Lexmoto's basic commuters. It'll be worth exactly the same now.
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PostPosted: 13:38 - 27 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
I wouldn't pay Lexmoto for dealer servicing just to maintain a notional warranty.

Bulbs are consumables. Although blowing that fast sounds like an electrical issue - check the connectors, main earth and the fuse is good (depending on how it's wired, it may actually run fine even with the main fuse loose).

Chap who parks up near me got one, it was looking in a sorry state after just one winter, so I'd get some ACF-50 on it ASAP.

Nice looking bikes, but I wouldn't pay a premium for one over Lexmoto's basic commuters. It'll be worth exactly the same now.


Yeah, to true. I'm not paying for lexmoto to do a service. I've been around a while and know that china do not make the best stuff in the world. After reading comments and comments, people are telling there stories of how bulbs are blowing just after, around, 250 hrs of useage.

Even diesel, putting additives into the tesco diesel causing car problems because you are to poor to buy at texaco or shell. All this is being done on purpose, to piss on us from a afar.
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 13 Aug 2022    Post subject: Re: Lexmoto venom Reply with quote

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Anyone else here stupid enough to of got a venom?


I know this is an old thread now, but in 2016 I bought 2 Lexmoto Venoms (one for me, one for my partner) and they have been great actually, so I thought I'd share my experience.

Both bikes have been looked after, stored in a garage while not used, regular oil changes and chain servicing (by myself) and honestly they have been very reliable. The only issues I've had are the poor factory fitted battery which I swapped out for cheap AGM batteries (so much better !) and it is necessary to bleed the carb to flush and water from the bottom of the fuel tank from sitting over winter.

I never intended to keep the 125s this long, but covid / lockdown aborted my direct access training and my CBT and theory test expired had to start all over again! In the meantime, these bikes have done over 4k miles and still going strong.

Although these bikes are obviously not going to be as good quality as a Honda or Yamaha, they are great learner / commuter bikes, if taken care of. I honestly think Lexmoto (and similar Chinese bikes) generally get a bad reputation because they are simply abused.
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