Ukraine war and when Russia will collaps?

[Polarbear]

[DaddyStu]

Interesting regarding the specific charges. Relocating children from the Donbass to Russia. Of course, under Russian Law, the Donbass is now Russian. So the war crime allegation viewed from that perspective is Putin taking children from one part of Russia to another.

Logic and legality aside - agree with previous poster. Maybe Putin should wait his turn. Bush, Blair, Rumsfeld (if still alive?) and those who tortured Iraqis in Abu Ghraib etc can go first.

I know the Yanks havent signed up for it but neither have the Ruskies.
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[stinkwheel]

Indoctrinating children into being little Russians then sending them back is an old strategy. They did it in a lot of the old Sov-block countries. I've spoken to a few Poles who were forced to speak Russian at school and were also encouraged to join youth groups which let them do extra activities and get extra food after school and at weekends while teaching them to be good little communists. With a sinister undertone of keeping tabs on what their parents were saying and thinking politically.
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[DaddyStu]

[Nobby the Bastard]

It's a very old one out of the play book. The more famous examples are th North americans taking natiive children away and the Australians doing the same with aborigine children.

No doubt the Germans did it in the 2nd world war and I seemto remember Us English doing it to the Irish as well.
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[Ribenapigeon]

[Polarbear]

[Howling Terror]

Aristotle made that quote years n years ago in the local Red Lion pub. Fact.

Bonus fact; He was absolutely bobbins at pool.
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[Val]

Putin will end like Saddam. He and his mates deserve it in spades.

https://i.imgur.com/fa5rpeZ.jpg

Also his dashcam footage:

https://i.imgur.com/l7VOpsK.png
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[Val]

[Polarbear]

We shouldn't have touched Hussein. Iraq would be miles better off if we had left him in charge despite being a dictator.

Sometimes in some communitys, dictators work for the majority and that seems especially true in the middle east. The Shah of Persia, Gadaffi, Sadaam, Assad. Stability rather than anarchy.

Even Saudi Arabia, backward, medieval in their systems. A plaything for one family but can you imagine the anarchy in that country if we (the west) tried to put in tolerant, benificial democracy?

Sometimes you just have to suck it up buttercup and stop playing god (Yes, Tony B. Looking at you among others).

Oh, and who would have bought Newcastle United if it wasn't for the Saudis?
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[to v or not to v]

do you ever stop to wonder if its actually us that are the bad guys?
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[stinkwheel]

Remember there were two gulf wars. The first one, the aggressive dictator invaded a neighbouring country and tried to annex it. The West went in guns blazing and kicked him out. Kuwait, as far as I know, did well after this.

We stopped. Maybe that's where we should have stopped.

Gulf war 2. Military success. Political shitshow. The military did what they were asked to do. The politicians had no idea what to do after that.

So aims need to be clear. Toppling Putin and political reform of Russia should not be the aim. Any reform in that respect neds to come from within and from the Russian people. Kicking Russia out of Ukraine and re-establishing/stabilising the border seems a good stopping point. Like Finland did.
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I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.

[Nobby the Bastard]

I'me sure I've said the following before...

Go in hard

Kill the bad guys.

Fuck off out. Not our problem.

This doesn't really work with someone who has nukes.....
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[DaddyStu]

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