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DrSnoosnoo
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PostPosted: 12:53 - 16 Aug 2022    Post subject: Tyres tyres tyres - ZX10R Reply with quote
Hi All. I've been away from this forum for a while so obviously I'm back when I want something.

I was riding a Hypermotard 821 SP on the Metzeler M7RR which seemed like a pretty good tyre. I rode in all weathers, apart from when the Ducati was typical Ducati and needed fixing ...

Anyway, now I'm on a 2010 ZX10R because willy waving. Currently on BT016s and they'll be done in a couple thousand miles, so a couple of months away.

I'm wondering what I should look at tyres wise. My commute is 35 miles each way, with some motorway, dual carriage way and some country-ish roads too so I need something dual compound that can handle some mileage of the boring stuff.

Are the Pilot Roads still the tyre to beat when it comes to this kind of job or should I be looking to the Bridgestone S22s, Metzeler M9RR type of stuff that might be a bit better suited for supersports road riding?

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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 16 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Up to road 6 now. I can't see past them. They do a harder-wearing GT version.
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DrSnoosnoo
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 16 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks sir. I've never tried a PR tyre, back in the ZZR days I loved the Avon Storm Ultra (whatever numbers and words they gave them), they lasted forever and gave me everything I needed.

Then Ducati so I got it something a bit more sporty in the M7 just because I thought I should.

Now with the ZX10 I'm expecting it to be more reliable and ridden more but I am acutely aware that this bike has a buttload more power than 600, 821 (100, 110 bhp) and the ZZR11 (140) so thought I should spend a bit of time on the research in this area.

I'm also aware that on a road ride I'll still only use like 50 bhp that I did on the other bikes but would like a tyre that could take some abuse when I'm being a straightline hero too.
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 16 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
stinkwheel wrote:
Up to road 6 now. I can't see past them. They do a harder-wearing GT version.


Have you had any experience of the GT version? How do they compare to the normal ones? On 5s at the moment (normal ones) and they're fantastic and suit the Viffer perfectly, but the rear is starting to square a bit now so I'll prob be thinking about replacements soonish. Never found a lack of grip in any situation with the 5s, just wondering if the GT will resist squaring off a bit better.
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 16 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
ThunderGuts wrote:
stinkwheel wrote:
Up to road 6 now. I can't see past them. They do a harder-wearing GT version.


Have you had any experience of the GT version? How do they compare to the normal ones? On 5s at the moment (normal ones) and they're fantastic and suit the Viffer perfectly, but the rear is starting to square a bit now so I'll prob be thinking about replacements soonish. Never found a lack of grip in any situation with the 5s, just wondering if the GT will resist squaring off a bit better.


Dunno. I've been using the GT ones anyway because I do about 50:50 motorway and twisties. They are really designed for big, lardy bikes so might have stiffer sidewalls than the standard ones. However, the VFR is no shrinking violet in the overall weight department anyway, then I sit on it.

Haven't quite hit the last of the three lines round the edge, if you judge grip by such things.
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 16 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
stinkwheel wrote:
Up to road 6 now. I can't see past them. They do a harder-wearing GT version.


I've just had a Road 5 fitted to the front of my 800 (there was already one on the rear), and compared to the Road 3 that was on there, it feels noticeably slower steering. Grip is excellent though.
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 16 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Zen Dog wrote:
stinkwheel wrote:
Up to road 6 now. I can't see past them. They do a harder-wearing GT version.


I've just had a Road 5 fitted to the front of my 800 (there was already one on the rear), and compared to the Road 3 that was on there, it feels noticeably slower steering. Grip is excellent though.


You could always drop the forks through the yoke a little to speed it up again.
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 16 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
stinkwheel wrote:

You could always drop the forks through the yoke a little to speed it up again.


I've considered this, but how much? I don't really want to find out I've gone too far with a self induced tankslapper...
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 16 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote
Zen Dog wrote:
stinkwheel wrote:

You could always drop the forks through the yoke a little to speed it up again.


I've considered this, but how much? I don't really want to find out I've gone too far with a self induced tankslapper...


Try a wee bit to start with, maybe 1/4" or so and see what you think. You've been riding bikes long enough to know if it feels wrong. I doubt you'll cause a tank slapper on a VFR, they'r epretty relaxed to start with. If you've gone too far, it'll drop over into the corners quicker and further than you intended and take a bit of steering effort and throttle to get it to come back up again. You're looking for the magic point where you don't need to push it down into corners and holds its line nicely then comes back up as you roll-on.

I used to run my 750 with a good 3/4" sticking out of the top before I fitted shorter cartidges. I think VFRs are a bit too raked out anyway as standard. It's why they always seem to corner better with luggage and a pillion.
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