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PostPosted: 20:07 - 02 Sep 2022    Post subject: How generic are radiator caps? Reply with quote

Got home from an hour's ride to find the bike had pissed a small amount of coolant onto the driveway. Had a look at the overflow tank (which is behind the sump) and it was beyond full. Dropped back down to half again after the bike cooled so I suspect the radiator cap (either that or the bike knew I was thinking of changing the coolant soon anyway so decided to help Rolling Eyes Laughing)

Trouble is I can't find a new cap (in the UK) specifically for the GSR-750. Any ideas what other models of zook would be ok ... I'm assuming they're fairly standard across the range.
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 02 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can also be a symptom of a head gasket leak. Feel one of the radiator hoses as you rev up the engine. If it goes hard, you have a problem.
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 02 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Can also be a symptom of a head gasket leak. Feel one of the radiator hoses as you rev up the engine. If it goes hard, you have a problem.


Yeah that's what I'm hoping it's not. Gonna eliminate the basics first.
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PostPosted: 01:42 - 03 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have used a STANT 11233 successfully on Kawasaki EX500, Honda PC800, and Honda VFR800. See if you can find the OE part number and google "radiator cap cross reference". I'm pretty sure you can find an acceptable fitment right in your local auto parts store. Beats paying a premium for the OE cap, and once you find an aftermarket part that fits, replacement will always be readily available. If I had your Suzuki, I would not hesitate to try the 11233.
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PostPosted: 12:01 - 03 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like the rad cap so far. No extra pressurisation of the pipes when revved, and the coolant reservoir only raises when the bike is hot. New one on order so fingers crossed... Good excuse to get another Gixxer thou if not Whistle
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PostPosted: 12:48 - 03 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Test the original radiator cap in a pan of water Thumbs Up

Suspend the cap in a pan of water and slowly bring it to the boil.If the cap spring mechanism functions as the water gets warm then it will indicate as faulty.

The same procedure is used for testing a thermostat.
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PostPosted: 14:16 - 03 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's pressure operated (16psi), not temperature. Putting it in boiling water is just going to get it warm.

Need a pressure tester to see it's actually working, but a new cap is way cheaper.
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 03 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

The symptoms that you describe are typical of rad cap failure on Suzukis in my experience.
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PostPosted: 23:53 - 03 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

xX-Alex-Xx wrote:
It's pressure operated (16psi), not temperature. Putting it in boiling water is just going to get it warm.

Need a pressure tester to see it's actually working, but a new cap is way cheaper.


Yeah what he said

To match the original or suspect one you'd need to know
The physical dimensions
Opening pressure usually around 4lb/psi
and if it has a flow back type valve to allow coolant back in
the rad as it cools
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PostPosted: 07:12 - 04 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boiling point increases by 1.67 degrees C (3 degrees F) for every 1 psi. A 4 psi pressure cap raises boiling point at sea level to 106.67 C (224 F). A 16 psi cap raises boiling point at sea level to 126.72C (260 F).
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PostPosted: 08:24 - 04 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Service manual states 14-17 psi for the cap. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 04 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not for my 1959 Morris Minor it dont !!
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 04 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

WD Forte wrote:
Not for my 1959 Morris Minor it dont !!


Doesn't for the Mk1 Beetle either for some weird reason. Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:16 - 07 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

New rad cap sorted it. Spring on the old one definitely felt a bit weak compared to the new one (both rated for the same 1.1 bar / 16 PSI).

For my original query, the same rad cap that fits the bike also fits about half the cars in the world from what I've seen.
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 07 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

xX-Alex-Xx wrote:
For my original query, the same rad cap that fits the bike also fits about half the cars in the world from what I've seen.

It's good to know which aftermarket equivalent fits your bike; should you find yourself in need of a cap and some distance from a dealer.
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 07 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fizzer Thou wrote:
Test the original radiator cap in a pan of water Thumbs Up

Suspend the cap in a pan of water and slowly bring it to the boil.If the cap spring mechanism functions as the water gets warm then it will indicate as faulty.

The same procedure is used for testing a thermostat.


You're mixing radiator pressure caps and thermostats up. The radiator cap is an overpressure device unaffected by temperature change.
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PostPosted: 14:35 - 09 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

xX-Alex-Xx wrote:
It's pressure operated (16psi), not temperature. Putting it in boiling water is just going to get it warm.

Need a pressure tester to see it's actually working, but a new cap is way cheaper.


My bad.Not been thinking straight just recently Thumbs Down Brick Wall
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PostPosted: 00:35 - 10 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radiator caps are cheap, and you could test to see if it makes a difference to swap one out. However, overflow being beyond full and pissing on the driveway (I've had that before) could just as well be a case of needing to bleed the system (air expands when it gets hot and displaces the coolant), or else needing to unblock something that's blocked. Have a look at the coolant filter, just in case.
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