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PostPosted: 11:53 - 20 Aug 2022    Post subject: Is eating meat okay? Reply with quote

T&S Rabbits farm closure to see about 250 rabbits given to activists

A surprising piece of actual journalism where both sides are given a say Smile tl;dr "breeding rabbits for meat and/or fur is cruel" vs "you want cruel? try the farms in Europe!"

People will keep on eating meat but now instead of having the rabbits farmed on our doorstep where we can ensure the animals are at least treated with some dignity they're imported from Europe where they obviously don't give a fuck about animal welfare. I think my wife summed it up best: "If I can't see it, it's not happening."
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PostPosted: 13:27 - 20 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't be silly. Of course it's ok to eat meat. Is it ok for tigers to eat meat?
Look at, was it Sri Lanka, to see what happens when governments start unnecessarily restricting food production. Are the globalists going to send in their own police to enforce their ridiculous ideas?
All they are going to do is ramp up the levels of rebellion until they're all driven out. Same with this silly climate alarmism and the daft so-called solutions they're coming up with.
Ain't nobody eating the bugs.
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 20 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
Don't be silly. Of course it's ok to eat meat. Is it ok for tigers to eat meat?
Look at, was it Sri Lanka, to see what happens when governments start unnecessarily restricting food production. Are the globalists going to send in their own police to enforce their ridiculous ideas?
All they are going to do is ramp up the levels of rebellion until they're all driven out. Same with this silly climate alarmism and the daft so-called solutions they're coming up with.
Ain't nobody eating the bugs.


With all due respect... calm down a bit m8y Laughing

There does seem to be a central theme of "people were made wrong" to all the utopianism though.
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PostPosted: 15:51 - 20 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

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With all due respect... calm down a bit m8y Laughing


Oh dear, another one who thinks they can detect tone through the internet Razz

Oops, he signed out in a huff - I can tell! Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 20 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

In b4 lefty conspiricy..
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 20 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
In b4 lefty conspiricy..


Lefties can't come up with conspiracies...they can't even spell it Razz
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 20 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blame the phone. I don't have my glasses on.
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PostPosted: 17:15 - 20 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Blame the phone. I don't have my glasses on.


"My eyes are dim, I cannot see,
I have not brought my specs with meeeeee!" Laughing

Of course Nobby Laughing
I hope as a public servant accountant, your maths is better than your English Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 20 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to take it back to the thread title for a moment, I hope you will permit me such indulgence...

If you mention rabbits to a city dweller they'll think of some cute thing with ears and go "ahhhhh!" Say the the same out in the sticks and they'll think "furry little cunts" Shocked We have the differentiation "rats" and "fancy rats" but apparently not for other animals. I could bet you all the money I have* that the so-called protesters at these farms are, how shall I put it, urban people.

A classic example of folks with "luxury beliefs" totally out of touch with how the real world works Thinking

*Jokes on you, you win my overdraft.
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 20 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
Just to take it back to the thread title for a moment, I hope you will permit me such indulgence...

If you mention rabbits to a city dweller they'll think of some cute thing with ears and go "ahhhhh!" Say the the same out in the sticks and they'll think "furry little cunts" Shocked We have the differentiation "rats" and "fancy rats" but apparently not for other animals. I could bet you all the money I have* that the so-called protesters at these farms are, how shall I put it, urban people.

A classic example of folks with "luxury beliefs" totally out of touch with how the real world works Thinking

*Jokes on you, you win my overdraft.


But countryfile shows no animals were harmed in the making of bacon. Shocked
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 20 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
Just to take it back to the thread title for a moment, I hope you will permit me such indulgence...


Ok, calm down, you provoked it Razz
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PostPosted: 01:10 - 21 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
But countryfile shows no animals were harmed in the making of bacon. Shocked


My other half always explained to the kids from a very early age that meat came from chopping up animals lest some do-gooder drop it on them at school in the hope of converting them to veganism. I've mentioned it before but my granddaughter came out with "I like ducks... and if you take the fur off there's chicken [meat] underneath!" possibly followed by "mmm.... tasty" Smile (She was about 4 or 5 at the time.)

I'm sure there are some that believe we should hide such things from children but eating's a bit more essential than Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny.

As an aside "pig" comes from Anglo-Saxon/Old English whereas "pork" (and possibly "bacon" although Old Germanic is similar) comes from Norman-French. The small folk with one word for a thing in its cultivation versus the aristocracy with their own for for its consumption. Same for cow vs. beef.
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 21 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been a hunter all my life. Been killing my own meat since I can remember and went years without buying meat.
My kids and grandkids all know where meat comes from and have been taken out to kill food and appreciate where it comes from.
I still shoot.

I haven't eaten meat in 3 yrs now. Don't miss it one bit.

Apart from maybe a barbecued steak. Smile
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 23 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is eating meat ok?

Yes.
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 23 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fat Angry Scotsman wrote:
Is eating meat ok?

Yes.


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Oh, except to say BACON!
Come on people, this is BaconChatForums isn't it?!
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PostPosted: 16:47 - 23 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most studies seem to come from America/ Aus of the destruction their beef industries do, rather than the mostly grass based meat production in the UK, the usual crap of animal food grade wheat and barley being stolen by cattle to feed them rather than humans

Then you get the vulture capitalists on the band wagon wanting to get shut of farmers so they can buy up land for carbon credits/ tree planting/ soylent green manufacturing , or the rewilding crap
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 23 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

you will eat insects and you will be happy.
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 24 Aug 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

to v or not to v wrote:
you vill eat ze bugs und you vill be happy.


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PostPosted: 23:27 - 31 Aug 2022    Post subject: Re: Is eating meat okay? Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
I think my wife summed it up best: "If I can't see it, it's not happening."

This is very true.
I love meat, and aren't expecting to change that any time soon. I eat a lot of veg too, but refuse to consider a future without animal products. I value leather, although I have been known to wear leatherette if its glitzy enough - and don't even get me started on real fur Wub

I've been known to let a cute ickle calf suck my fingers with his gummy ickle mouth but still happily scoff roast veal or schnitzel without a qualm.

Although ... I once wandered onto one of those farm-sab type of sites and caught sight of a hugely over-meaty pig obviously pumped full of hormones - it nearly put me off bacon for life Puke I find myself creeping about the net in places where I might accidentally see something like that again Puke

If we weren't supposed to eat meat, we wouldn't have been given teeth with tearing and grinding functions. Folded arms
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PostPosted: 09:32 - 01 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't rabbits rather poor nutritionally? I heard once they have little more than protein and if you tried to live off rabbit meat you would suffer malnutrition.

I don't care really as since a particularly bad gout attack last year the only meat I eat is some chicken less than once a week.
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 01 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ribenapigeon wrote:
Aren't rabbits rather poor nutritionally? I heard once they have little more than protein and if you tried to live off rabbit meat you would suffer malnutrition.

I don't care really as since a particularly bad gout attack last year the only meat I eat is some chicken less than once a week.


They're fine as long as you get your fat and carbohydrate needs from other sources in a balanced diet. Rabbit meat is too lean to survive on as a single source diet - you'd eventually die of protein poisoning.
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 01 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
and don't even get me started on real fur

to which I'd reply:
Eartha Kitt wrote:
At least real fur is biodegradable!

Possibly apocryphal as I can't find a source. Then again:
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[real] Fur is worn by beautiful animals and ugly people.

Can't find a source for that either. Makes you wonder why we bother with the Interwebs Rolling Eyes

The energy required to catch, skin and cook a rabbit: zero gain. That being said we're only talking about the strict nutritional cost/benefit and nothing of the mental health aspect of adding variety to your diet.
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 01 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it okay to eat meat?
YES!

Be sensible about it and serve with a nice plate of vegetables and a home made gravy Smile

I’ll NEVER stop eating meat and I am happy to annoy anyone who tries to stop me eating meat. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 01 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The energy required to catch, skin and cook a rabbit: zero gain. That being said we're only talking about the strict nutritional cost/benefit and nothing of the mental health aspect of adding variety to your diet.


I struggle to believe that. In the middle ages rabbit was a staple food. They even built rabbit warrens to keep them.

Back in medieval England rabbits were not bred in cages but in specially crafted earthen burrows called warrens, or pillow mounds. These were heaps of earth with multiple, well-ventilated inner chambers where rabbits mated, gave birth and raised their families.

https://www.amusingplanet.com/2020/08/medieval-rabbit-warrens.html
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 01 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:


I’ll NEVER stop eating meat and I am happy to annoy anyone who tries to stop me eating meat. Evil or Very Mad


The thing is, if this ideology really takes a hold, you won't get the choice unless you do go and hunt it or rear it for yourself. Some folks may have the skills/space/wherewithal to do it, but they'll be in a minority.

I would say that it's highly unlikely that this will happen except some governments are already actively shutting down the livestock capacity of farms and much other food production, this in a time when there are food shortages around the world anyway. And now the German environment minister has as good as stated that starvation of millions is not important when he's busy trying to save the planet Brick Wall
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