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Kinzeyyy L Plate Warrior
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Posted: 20:57 - 29 Sep 2022 Post subject: Hello, new to the forum and i'm having some difficulties.... |
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Sorry if this is a long post. i'm looking for a bit of support and advice cos i'm getting quite frustrated with myself. and wondering if anyone has done their cbt with learning difficulties or if anyone on here has trained anyone with learning difficulties.
I've been having taster lessons before i do my cbt as my balance and coordination is not very good. I've not been diagnosed with dyspraxia , but i think thats what i suffer with. when i was a child i've never been able to get to grips with riding a pushbike. and been taught many of times to swim but never been able to do it. and theres other things like my writing etc that lead towards dyspraxia tendancies.
As it came to do my cbt out on the road i completely messed it up.
i was okay in the yard, passed with flying colours. It took me quite a few lessons on the yard but i got there.
when it was time to go out onto the road. I was all over the road, felt like i was going fast at 20mph and kept stopping, i even dropped the bike. well, a scooter it is.
To be fair i've never been on the road before riding or driving.
i'm wondering if my nerves kicks off the dyspraxia or something. i felt all uptight on the bike, chicken wings and all. or if it was just nerves making me all uptight.
anyways, this week i've had a lesson on the road to see if i can make any progress. which i have done. I rode without stopping unnecessarily, rode a bit faster, listened more. not so much all over the road but was heading to the right hand side of the lane all the time. i was still feeling all tensed up like before. didnt drop the bike but nearly did. and rode a bit better towards the end of the lesson.
Instructor said i had done alright. But its a balance thing for me and i looked all squ-iff (can't spell it lol) sitting on the bike. i could feel that cos i was all tensed up. and then he asked me if i suffered with dyspraxia.
But i'm fab at riding in the yard, can do figure of 8's and stuff.
when i first started the lessons i had chosen a scooter to train on as i was told it was harder to balance on a scooter than a bike, so used that to test my ability and got there in the end. plus was well scared of the bikes at the time.
i've got another lesson next week, hopefully a bit more progress.
I need to be safe on the roads.
If no progress next week, do i just give up? I've spent a lot of time and money to go towards my goal. and i don't want to give up on everything in life cos i've got learning difficulties.
I have a 125 that i rode on private land once in first gear a couple of months back, as my other half is a biker so he helped me.
I enjoyed that more and apparently i looked better on it and when i stopped i didnt hunch over the front. and as far as i can remember i didnt struggle. being on the bike, my legs in the different position i felt more comfortable.
i'm just worried if i take bike lessons on a normal bike with all the different controls and gears will it set me back? and worried i'll be all to hell again out on the road. it was the plan in the first place to get my cbt on the scooter and then learn the gears and stuff afterwards by myself and my partner.
I dont want to give up as i havent had the best upbringing to achieve things that i should. but there again its making me feel exhausted and i dont want to be put off after trying and failing all the time.
I'm wondering also if to go to this other training centre. according to their website they're polite, patient and have a 'can do' attitude. but they require trainees to be able to balance.
any suggestions even if its not what i want to hear (please be kind) i would be grateful.
thanks for reading. ____________________ Kinzey |
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I have a biker friend who is quite badly dyspraxic. He rides but he always rides sidecar outfits these days because physically balancing the bike is difficult for him.
In many ways, it's even more difficult to ride a sicecar outfit but it's achieved more by manipulating the controls than by manipulating your bodyweight. If you have an official diagnosis, it may be possible to ride a three wheeler or combination for your CBT and test.
That said, once a motorcycle is moving more than walking pace, it will tend to stay upright and travelling in a straight line. It's almost entirely user input through the handlebars that makes it do anything different so once you've got the slow speed stuff down, the trick is not to make it fall over.
I always thought this video demonstrates how stable a motorbike is once it's rolling:
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stinkwheel wrote: | I have a biker friend who is quite badly dyspraxic. He rides but he always rides sidecar outfits these days because physically balancing the bike is difficult for him.
In many ways, it's even more difficult to ride a sicecar outfit but it's achieved more by manipulating the controls than by manipulating your bodyweight. If you have an official diagnosis, it may be possible to ride a three wheeler or combination for your CBT and test.
That said, once a motorcycle is moving more than walking pace, it will tend to stay upright and travelling in a straight line. It's almost entirely user input through the handlebars that makes it do anything different so once you've got the slow speed stuff down, the trick is not to make it fall over.
I always thought this video demonstrates how stable a motorbike is once it's rolling:
https://youtu.be/kQ5hV-ESBd0 |
Don't you have to have a full car licence to ride a 3 wheeler?
Don't see many bikes with sidecars around here.
Thank you for the video, I think maybe the bike rather than a scooter will be better for me as nobby says the wheels are smaller on the scooter and a scooter is bulkier.
A friend of mine was saying he can ride a motorbike but not a scooter. Maybe I'm the same. ____________________ Kinzey |
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In a past life I used to do CBTs and take pupils out on the road. Generally speaking if someone could do the cones bit, they could, with a bit of practice and confidence, do the road bit too and pass their test. Some people took to riding on the road straight away whilst some took months to get the hang of it. Some never did and there is no shame in that. I could have all the lessons in the world but it won't change the fact that I can't sing, and I am not a worse person for it... The most important thing is to not exceed your limitations, because if you do, you will drop it and it does hurt...
What about some one-to-one tuition, with your partner taking you as pillion to a quiet bit of road so you don't have to do the difficult stuff straight away? If you find that you can handle that, then and only then ride somewhere with traffic... ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Evil Hans wrote: | Meanwhile, it might be worth borrowing a bicycle to get some more practice in. |
This. If you can balance on a motorcycle you should be able to balance on a bicycle.
I suspect that the mass of the motorcycle being much higher than a bicycle (as a proportion of the rider's weight), is helping to mask any balance issues. But if you cannot correctly balance a two wheeler reliably, it is going to bite you sooner or later, it just might be slightly later on a motorcycle, and will probably hurt more.
Practice on a bicycle. There are fewer controls to worry about, and it's much less likely to break anything (on you or the bicycle) if you drop it. It's also going to highlight incorrect body position much better so you can correct it now, rather than have to deal with it on a more dangerous/expensive motorcycle later. ____________________ Current - '94 VFR750FR, '00 VFR800FI Previous - '10 Street Triple R, '92 MZ ETZ301, '05 TTR250, NSR125R, KMX125, "Honda" Win (chinese copy of an old Honda design with a C90 engine)
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I'd have to agree with Nobby. I spent decades cycling before going for motorcycles and TBH the CBT was pretty trivial. You might not like it but I'd spend all my spare time between motorcycle lessons on a push-bike. Don't like the seat? Bin it and buy a new one, that's what I've done with every new push-bike anyway I'd suggest getting a hybrid or mountain bike with road tyres over a racing bike.
Alternatively as you're on a scooter there are the three-wheel ones with two wheels up front. If the front wheels are close enough together the DVLA consider them a two-wheeled vehicle. ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Yeah, the rake angle. That's why stoopid cruisers are a c*nt to turn ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 1 year, 200 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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