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PostPosted: 01:49 - 03 Oct 2022    Post subject: PC playing up Reply with quote

Fuffin' computers, I fuffin' hate 'em! Which is a bit inconvenient seeing as I work in IT Sad

My main PC occasionally has a problem going to sleep. After a manual reset it's usually either completely fine, reboots on it's own or locks up - usually within the first 5 mins. Second reboot it's perfectly fine again.

Random reboots says to me power supply or motherboard. The former wouldn't be much to swap but the latter? I may as well build a new PC. This thing's getting a bit old though, 7th gen Intel, so maybe not worth the effort of keeping it creaking on Thinking
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PostPosted: 07:50 - 03 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Replace the power supply first. If that's not the issue, you have a new power supply for your new PC. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 08:39 - 03 Oct 2022    Post subject: Re: PC playing up Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
This thing's getting a bit old though, 7th gen Intel


Hahaha ... I'm rockin a 2600K, 11 years old (as well as the rest of the system) and still going strong!

With regards the going to sleep, that what happens when you get old Wink

Seriously though not a clue as to why this would be happening, I gave up using the sleep function of the OS years ago and just power down/up each time ... no problems at all.

Hope yo get it sorted Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 03 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

xX-Alex-Xx wrote:
Replace the power supply first. If that's not the issue, you have a new power supply for your new PC. Mr. Green


The only problem is it's a teeny-weeny SFX psu as it's a Mini-ITX system. If I do a rebuild I'm not 100% sure I'd go down the Mini-ITX route again over micro ATX.

Just wondering if the 12th gen Intel stuff will be going cheap when the 13th gen launches at the end of the month.
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 03 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd normally help, but sleep mode is shite in general, I'd rather turn it off Laughing It boots in sub 10 seconds anyway so fuck it.
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PostPosted: 15:25 - 03 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah sometimes event viewer brings some identification. Sometimes not.
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 03 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

blurredman wrote:
Ah sometimes event viewer brings some identification. Sometimes not.


Nah, it just unceremoniously dies Sad
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PostPosted: 16:48 - 03 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried turning it off?
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 04 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Full make and model of:-

PSU
Motherboard
CPU
Ram
GPU
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PostPosted: 17:36 - 04 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Howling Terror wrote:
Have you tried turning it off?


Yes, I turned it off all day today and just used the dev pc instead. Turned it on just now, booted up and a few minutes later random reset. On the 2nd reboot now and it seems perfectly fine. Note the screen freezes for about half a second before it reboots.

FWIW it's a Gigabyte Z270N-WIFI Mini-ITX, Intel i5-7500 3.4GHz, 2x 8GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 PC17100, GTX1050ti with a 550W SFX psu. No idea on the manufacturers of the last two without dismantling the thing.
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PostPosted: 10:29 - 06 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try loading bios defaults.
Disable all cpu power stepping
Disable all hibernation / sleep stuff in both windows and bios.

Test and report back

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PostPosted: 00:49 - 12 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tried resetting the BIOS. Dunno what was up with the old settings but it boots to Windows in seconds now so that's something Smile

Didn't fix it though as tonight I got a BSOD. This is actually progress as I can run a dump analysis* and maybe get some clues; so begins an epic journey Shocked

Windbg had a moan up about the NT kernel which usually points to a driver issue. Cue Windows' driver verifier which crashed on reboot (don't worry, it's meant to) and had a moan up about HID classes. I uninstalled any old drivers I could find - Saitek and Logitech needing some heavy registry editing to remove completely - and tried again.

My system now boots up with driver verify running. Hooray? Maybe. I wouldn't suspect what should be inactive HID drivers to kill a system but Saitek apparently has a poor reputation. However if my system does crash again hopefully the driver verify process will point out the real culprit.

The journey continues....

*Poke it with a shitty stick.
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PostPosted: 11:19 - 12 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Progress! Not sure whether driver verify helped reveal it but had a crash this morning. System locked up but this time I left it and after a few minutes I got a BSOD. Dump analysis pointed to "EasyTuneService" which is part of the Gigabyte overclocking suite, uninstall!

Fingers crossed we have winner Smile
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 13 Oct 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy tune is a good thing to remove, as with most apps along those lines.

Its an automatic overlocking app which just chucks voltage and cranks the clock without any real thought behind it.

Glad you seem to have it sorted o7
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