Bike theft in Edinburgh and petition.

[stinkwheel]

Bike theft and "bikelyfe" style gangs in Edinburgh are reaching epidemic proportions. Multiple foreign tourists have had their bikes stolen when visiting the capital and they have progressed from stealing parked bikes to bikejacking and robbery.

Police seem to have a no intervention, no persuit policy and are effectively ignoring the problem.

When you have incidents like a bike instructor being surrounded by a masked gang intent on getting him off his bike during a lesson (and where this happened is hardly an out of the way place, it's one of the main routes into the city). A friend of mine was approached at a set of lights recently and threatened with a hammer. Police weren't really interested then made noises about him jumping the red light after checking the CCTV Link here


MAG have organised a petition to the Scottish parliament calling for robust action to be taken: https://petitions.parliament.scot/petitions/PE1971

It'll undoubtedly be ignored but it does no harm to try.
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[Easy-X]

What are the legalities of setting up a private police force? 'Cos the public one is worth fuck all
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[doggone]

Do these gangs have certain *profile* I wonder.
To be taking such risks must be selling on stolen bikes almost to order you would think.

[chickenstrip]

Meh. Comrade Sturgeon will sort it all out for you.
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[stinkwheel]

[Kawasaki Jimbo]

I’ve said this before but vehicle crime is treated by the police like a business transaction or blameless incident.

“You’ve got insurance? Give them this crime reference and they’ll make it all better with no harm done, no further action required.”

It looks like they’ve been treating burglaries in the same extraordinary manner.

Police chiefs across the country have for the first time committed to sending officers to ‘every home burglary’ in England and Wales.

We’re lucky they don’t regard National Insurance as another excuse to do nothing.

“Here’s your mugging incident reference. Now just pop down to A&E and get yourself patched up.”

If you turn a blind eye to even minor crimes it escalates. Nip it in the bud.

[MCN]

[stinkwheel]

We were actually discussing what to do in the situation that bike instructor had.

I think I'd opt for picking one then just straight-up riding right through/over him. Geared and fuelled up on my VFR, you're looking at about 350kg of moving mass vs a ratboy on a pushbike. Physics always wins.

[Nobby the Bastard]

If it's a litre, just lay it on it's side.

You want it? Pick the bastard up....
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[Robby]

In London it changed when someone got killed. Footage and news commentary about it had been circulating for months before then, but the hammer only came down after the murder, which made the police change their policy of avoiding pursuit if a scooter rider wasn't wearing a helmet.

Shortly after that, a scooter criminal was killed during a police chase. There was a bit of news coverage, but no significant anti-police outcry.

Very, very quickly the moped crime problem went from a major problem to being part of the background noise of general crime in London.

I expect other cities will follow a similar model. The police do not want to be blamed for a death over a stolen vehicle or mobile phone. As soon as moped criminals are linked to a major crime - murder, terrorism - the hammer comes down with an unlimited enforcement budget.

[doggone]

[Weisse Schlange]

Its fucking brutal.
They burgled my mates house on Friday while he was nightshift with me. His wife and kids were upstairs and they were in his house for 45 minutes.
Stole his KTM, e-bike and a car.
They need killed.

I refuse to ride inside Edinburgh now, but if I have to even get close, I keep a hammer on the bike, fuckem, I'd use it.

They should burn Pilton and Mayfield to the ground.

As an aside, if your bike gets nicked, check behind the old church in Pilton, they stash them there before usung them later.
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[stinkwheel]

[ThunderGuts]

[doggone]

It seems to be just as bad in NE England there's a facebook group with several bikes going missing or found having been removed and parked in quiet spot every day.
Only certain obvious hotspots have the problem though.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/northeastbikers

[stinkwheel]

Most of it is riding them about.

If you were nicking it for parts/resale you wouldn't bother trying to start it and ride away on the street where it's parked, it would be van and gone.

Don't underestimate how much effort the little fuckers will go to to steal a bike to ride around on. When my MZ street moto got nicked, they cut the 16mm through hardened load chain with some sort of shear. It turned up a week later being ridden around town with a rats-nest of wiring hanging off it bypassing the 12 lead immobaliser.

Toerag who was caught filling it up with fuel ran off and was chased and caught by the police. CPS didn't press any charges. None at all, not even road traffic offences. That was in carlisle.
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“Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.

[ThunderGuts]

It's happening everywhere; the inner 'burbs of Manchester are particularly bad, but stories pop up on the various Facebook groups I'm in on a regular basis. Mostly it's scrotes being opportunistic taking an unsecured 125, or boltcroppers at most against a feeble chain. I know people who have been surrounded before now, but no serious efforts to take anything, but that's just the people I know.
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TG.

[Easy-X]

Bring back hanging?
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[chickenstrip]

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