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 Posted: 00:36 - 10 Oct 2022 Post subject: Best late '80s bike? |
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Following on from another thread assuming 2030 means no more petrol bikes sold we also have to consider all the bikes from 2020 through to 2030 are shite i.e. Euro 5 and effectively unmoddable "No worries, I'll stick with Euro 4!" Yes, I've suddenly got a greater appreciation for my 2016 bike - at least it's mine and I can remap it and fuck with it (as long as it's roadworthy ofc.) But I suspect Euro 3/4 will go in the bin as "the bad man" later down the line the same as "eco-diesels" in that you'll pay emissions changes in city centres. Fuck it, let's go vintage!
Another assumption: they keep the 40yo = vintage rolling on until 2030 and freeze it there. On our side: the vintage car people are a surprisingly powerful lobby group and let's be honest us bikers have been riding on their coat tails. So we're looking at 1990 or older...
So I'd like to hear some nominations for best bike. It doesn't necessarily have to be late '80s if you can make a case for something solid and reliable, easy maintenance, good daily etc. Consider something you'd have some faith if you bought it now and kept going till 2030 and beyond. ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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I owned 4 late 80s bikes, in the late 80s, so I'll just comment on those as I found them at the time.
1. Suzuki GSXR750 (slab-side).
2. Suzuki GSXR1100G (slab-side)
3. Yamaha FZ750
4. Suzuki RG500
Most fun, RG500, no question. But not a good everyday bike, too looney, too thirsty and just liked to be thrashed everywhere.
Best long distance bike, GSXR1100 - roomy, comfortable, fast, good wind protection.
GSXR750 was fun, but the RG500 beats it in that category. GSXR the better everyday bike, a bit more practical, but in the day, you didn't buy them for that.
The FZ750 was probably the best all-rounder. Fast, handled well, reasonable comfort level, better quality of finish than the Suzukis.
So from the ones I owned, the FZ750 wins overall. Although strangely enough, it's not the one I'd most like to own again - that'd be the RG, and practicality be damned!
And funnily enough, my current bike is a descendant of the FZ and I'd just stick with it - it has never let me down, requiring minimal maintenance. I've had 5 of them in a row, and none have gone because of reliability issues - one stolen, one crashed, two just sold when skint.
Edit: There was one other that I tried, had a go on a mate's, we swapped for a ride when I had the FZ: GPZ600R. It was fairly quick, light. But I don't know if it was the way he had it set up, tyres or what, but I just couldn't get the damned thing to turn in on the corners, it just seemed to want to go wide everywhere. Physically a little on the small side for me too. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I don't even know what Euro 1 is...  ____________________ CBT: 12/06/10, Theory: 22/09/10, Module 1: 09/11/10, Module 2: 19/01/11
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Not sure I'd want an earlier one than the ~97 ish plate mine was, but I'd love to have my CBR600F back.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50077818993_cbcdb99ddd_c.jpg
Sounded ace, loved the 10k+ rpm induction noise, handled well, reliable, nimble, practical, comfortable, cheap. It was great.
It just lacked a bit of character which is what I tend to go for in my bikes. |
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MarJay wrote: | That's why a 1994 or 1995 Blade would be such a decent buy I reckon. |
Just running on the principle that pre-1990 will be vintage (by 2030) and therefore hopefully still exempt from congestion and emissions charges in the cities. That's the way TFL does it and Oxford, an early pilot of LEZ outside London, has this on their FAQs:
Quote: | Will classic cars be restricted from entering Oxford under the proposals?
In line with London’s Ultra Low Emission Zone, we are currently proposing a 100% discount for vehicles with historic tax classes (i.e. historic vehicles which qualify for vehicle tax exemption). Non-exempt vehicles will be allowed entry through payment of the charge if they are not zero emission. |
Fingers crossed everyone else follows the TFL pattern!
I would suggest that vintage motorcycles are a bit more accessible than their 4-wheeled brethren plus the whole "free spirit, go anywhere, park (almost) anywhere" of biking in general
grr666 wrote: | ...but word is the ECU ... has
been cracked already and cat delete pipes are widely available |
That's good news, given bikes are taxed on engine displacement not emissions. But again, vintage seems a way of side-stepping any awkward conversations about asthmatic kittens at the side of the road, dare I say... a loophole  ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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I guess I was there in about 89 or thereabouts, when I got my first 50cc. I often wonder what happened to Big (6'11 24st)
Chris the mechanic there at the time. We had a laugh back in the day. ____________________ Currently enjoying products from Ford, Mazda and Yamaha
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For the criteria the OP sets, my shortlist so far would be:
Yamaha FZ750
Kawasaki GPZ900R
Honda VFR750
All bikes along similar lines, semi-sporty in their day, but make good all-rounders. And mine, Fazer FZS1000, a slightly more modern equivalent of the same (2001-2005, so needs a few more years yet)
If we're not too fussy about year but want to go back a bit, I'd throw a ZX9R on the list too. Don't know when they first hit the streets, sometime in the 90s. Just going on what owners have said about them, consistently good reviews, haven't owned one myself. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I had have had 3 over the years. 2 white and silver and 1 midnight blue. I love all of them but the midnight blue was my favorite just for the colour scheme. Probably the nearest bike to an absolutly phenominal sports tourer I have ever owned.
I have no pictures of any of mine except this one of youngest daughter (who is now 30 years old) posing on on one of the the white and silver ones which must make the photo late 90's so the last one I owned. Library midnight blue one after for pure although the original exhaust was black chrome twin pipe which looked super.
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I think if you're used to anything modern, you would be disappointed to go back to an 80s bike. Especially a late-80s 4-cylinder. While I understand the logic, it might be a bit pessimistic to think that in the future you would have to placate yourself with something which looked and sounded and rode much better in your imagination, or even in your memory, than in reality. Things look rosier when you're wearing your rose-tinted spectacles, and when it's right there in front of you you might realise it was all a lot of fuss about nothing. Not for nothing have engineering advances been made - not just in engines but in chassis, suspension, brakes, aerodynamics; just everything. There's absolutely no chance I would buy a 1980s bike. Let's face it, by 2030 electric bikes will probably be much cheaper and will have much greater range, and there will be a choice of enduros, sports bikes, tourers to suit everyone. You will feel like an oaf riding a 1980s bike. Eccentrics of tomorrow who are really into sports combustion engines will be more likely be riding today's R1 or H2. Primitive flat-4 or twin from the 80s? Don't think so. I think it might be better to just stick with a modern bike, pay your ULEZ or take the exemption test, pay the tax and ride it out. Everyone who pumps up 80s bikes seems to have a collection they will want to offload one day, or is running a business exploiting people who missed the boat. |
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No, no, you've misunderstood - I would never suggest an RG500 for a do-it-all, everyday, reliable, only bike (although it'd be a nice way to stick two fingers up at emissions zones )! I may be mad, but I'm not that mad! ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Nobody rates the EXUP? Just about qualifies as late '80s. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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You're such a romantic
Seriously though, my father-in-law spends the vast majority of his time zipping about on a '70s Z1000 even though he has two other much more modern bikes. BTW that wasn't the intent when he bought it as a project.
Thinking about my current bike the things I'd probably miss the most is a decent fuel gauge and ABS neither of which are deal breakers. ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Bhud wrote: | I think if you're used to anything modern, you would be disappointed to go back to an 80s bike. Especially a late-80s 4-cylinder. While I understand the logic, it might be a bit pessimistic to think that in the future you would have to placate yourself with something which looked and sounded and rode much better in your imagination, or even in your memory, than in reality. Things look rosier when you're wearing your rose-tinted spectacles, and when it's right there in front of you you might realise it was all a lot of fuss about nothing. Not for nothing have engineering advances been made - not just in engines but in chassis, suspension, brakes, aerodynamics; just everything. |
I'd say the VFR750 is the exception to that. With the possible exception of the brakes which are relatively easy to upgrade. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 209 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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