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BRUN
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PostPosted: 05:34 - 23 Jul 2023    Post subject: Filtering Reply with quote
Check out this article on filtering, wrote by a journalist who was banned apparently after being caught driving on drugs and/or drink, see the comments.

https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/motorcyclists-who-overtake-stop-start-27281692
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PostPosted: 07:36 - 23 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
banned for drink driving in 07 and again for speeding whilst using and in possession of cocaine in 16.
is jealous of bikers filtering whilst shes stuck in traffic and uses the "its dangerous" excuse.

just about the quality of journalism ive come to expect from a modern, selfish, self entitled, empowered female journalist.
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PostPosted: 08:07 - 23 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
They seem to have used a photo from somewhere in Europe.
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PostPosted: 09:16 - 23 Jul 2023    Post subject: Re: Filtering Reply with quote
BRUN wrote:
see the comments.

Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 23 Jul 2023    Post subject: Re: Filtering Reply with quote
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
BRUN wrote:
see the comments.

Laughing
I've been filtering full time for 40 years now. I know how many miles per year I have done in all that time and it's around 600,000 miles.

About a 10th of that is filtering in London or on A roads and motorways, so about 60,000 miles of weaving between car, lorries and nowadays, headphone wearing peds, cyclists and electric scooters.

I move over for a lot of bikes to let them pass, including ones with L plates when I am filtering so I don't hold them up, I am in it for the long game. I have seen a fair amount of silly motorcycle filtering and mostly they get away with it, but some you can see it's only a matter of time.

Flying down at speed between two lines of slow moving or stand still vehicles works until one of them changes lanes with no warning, there is no possibility of stopping or slowing enough to avoid this if it happens at the speeds I see. Most 4 wheel vehicles indicate and hesitate for ages before changing lanes, but I am sure everyone has seen the super confident driver who flicks the car sideways into another lane with no warning at all. If you're filtering a bit more carefully you'll either stop in time or just get knocked over relatively gently.

It is rare to see a bike get side swiped (I started before youtube existed), but I have seen this a few times, it can be quite spectacular. I suspect these people are the ones who give motorcycling up as a dangerous pursuit afterwards or who harp on about wearing all the gear all the time to those that don't dress for falling off.

My three main memories of bikes copping an unfortunate one are:-

1/ Learner on a 125 Chinese custom choppery bike with the widest crash bars in the world hitting the rear bumper of a stationary car with one of the crash bars bring him to a sudden stop. Bits of bike and rear bumper everywhere.

2/ A Ducati Monster flying past me on Aspen Way, rider wearing a sports bag with the small handles wedged over his shoulders/arms. Traffic was crawling along in all three lanes as usual. A very expensive looking sports car just switched lanes without looking or indicating, hitting the bike and sending it across the road. The rider was fine, I think the bag on his back helped with his landing, but I recall he no longer had any footrests or their mounting points on one side of the bike. The car looked less expensive with the Monster print in the door and side

3/ I was passed by what must have been the most accessorised BMW GS in the world on the A13 near Barking in about 2015. The rider looked magnificent, chest out, arms wide, towering above the cars he was flashing down the middle of, he looked unstoppable. I caught up with him as some car drivers were propping him up against the railings of one of the old flyovers, the BMW was scattered over a few lanes. He was struggling to breathe and crying with pain as he had taken a heavy blow to his chest and ribs. I called an ambulance and when the old bill turned up they sent me and the others who had stopped on our way as we hadn't witnessed the actual collision. I always wondered how he got on.
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 23 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
As I always say: motorcycle helmets are not mandated for safety it's to conceal how smug the rider is while filtering Smile
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Kawasaki Jimbo
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 23 Jul 2023    Post subject: Re: Filtering Reply with quote
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
BRUN wrote:
see the comments.

Laughing


I was referring to the reporter’s driving history, mentioned there (oh, and by ‘to v or not to v’).

Also, the sub-heading,
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There might be an element of jealousy in my frustration but motorcyclists need to know that they're taking a risk in overtaking like this

Hands up who didn’t know it was a risk? She should be telling drivers to anticipate this legal activity, and also stop changing lanes every two minutes trying to get a few yards ahead in the queue.

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shooting down the middle of lanes

Emotive language.

Filtering looks riskier when I observe it from a car than it does when I’m actually doing it (managing the risk) on the bike.
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 23 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
meh. It is an opinion piece that comes across as quite ranty as that is the nature of opinion pieces.
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 23 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Easy-X wrote:
As I always say: motorcycle helmets are not mandated for safety it's to conceal how smug the rider is while filtering Smile


Helps keeps all the bits together after you come off at 120mph
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 23 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Amy Fenton will soon be replaced by ChatGPT. Dance!
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BRUN
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 24 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
article has been edited this morning LOL

comments section magically vanished
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Ayrton
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PostPosted: 12:01 - 24 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
"they are taking a big chance with their lives"
How many people have actually died from filtering in stopped or barely moving traffic? Seems like at most you'd write off the bike and be a little sore the next day.
The real problem is cars not looking behind them before swinging into another lane because it's moving a tiny bit faster. Maybe write an article telling drivers to look instead...
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doggone
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 24 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
It still says what are your thoughts tell us in comments below - but no such option exists. Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:53 - 24 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ayrton wrote:
"they are taking a big chance with their lives"
How many people have actually died from filtering in stopped or barely moving traffic? Seems like at most you'd write off the bike and be a little sore the next day.


Compared to bikers hit up the arse by a car not paying attention? Very little.
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 24 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
Reading between the lines, it seems that Amy was Pumped and Dumped by a chap who rides a motorcycle.
That's all what's wrong with her. Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 24 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
MCN wrote:
Reading between the lines, it seems that Amy was Pumped and Dumped by a chap who rides a motorcycle.
That's all what's wrong with her. Laughing

Are you sure that isn't what she need to cure her?
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 24 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
BRUN wrote:
article has been edited this morning LOL

comments section magically vanished


the media, protectors of free speech everywhere.
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PostPosted: 09:05 - 25 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
BRUN wrote:
article has been edited this morning LOL

comments section magically vanished


Comments are still on the Lancs Live FB page
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PostPosted: 09:53 - 25 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
lmao dumb bint Laughing goes on about the dangers of filtering while shes already had a 12 month ban for driving under the influence of drugs which I think is more dangerous but oh well Laughing
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BRUN
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PostPosted: 11:19 - 25 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
rpsmith79 wrote:
BRUN wrote:
article has been edited this morning LOL

comments section magically vanished


Comments are still on the Lancs Live FB page


im not on Facebook, hows it going on there lol
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 25 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
BRUN wrote:


im not on Facebook, hows it going on there lol


1,300 comments, mostly from bikers, saying filtering is perfectly legal

Cleary the folk in Lancs don't think the same way as the jouno did
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PostPosted: 12:51 - 25 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
BRUN wrote:
im not on Facebook, hows it going on there lol


It's also on twitter:

https://twitter.com/LiveLancs/status/1682346179223490560
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 25 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
https://facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid024hgMQTCiP95fPWBXsJ5JUiQMAbtWb55USKsGhsaMSmE6Pzfjs9mMzWBm4JTNN6zwl&id=100064165626086
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 25 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
I don't get this: "it's dangerous!" For whom?

Go nuts on a bike and 9 times out of 10 it's the rider that's killed or quadrospazzed. AFAIK the number of people killed by bikes that were neither rider nor pillion (i.e. a pedestrian, cyclist, in a car etc.) are almost non-existent, judging from:

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/reported-road-casualties-great-britain-motorcyclist-factsheet-2020/reported-road-casualties-in-great-britain-motorcycle-factsheet-2020

I won't even bother pulling the stats on the number of non-driver deaths due to drink or drug driving, I think you get my point.
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BRUN
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 27 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote
this has made it on to a few youtuber accounts aswell lol

wouldnt be surprised if their is a bike meet outside her house Laughing
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