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PostPosted: 21:31 - 15 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, you're free to say whatever you want...

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...but your employer is also free to take umbrage Wink TBF there aren't many large corporates where you can freely slag off the boss and get away with it.

I wonder if Musk found a note in his desk "I'm afraid there is no money." Thinking
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 15 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

xX-Alex-Xx wrote:
Getting better and better each day:

https://uk.pcmag.com/social-media/143846/twitter-fires-3-more-employees-after-they-publicly-criticize-elon-musk

“Free speech for everyone, but fuck people who speak out against me. Oh and I’ll blame the app running slow on the devs I fired, not the fact I’ve just laid off most of the people who kept the platform running”


Don't worry about it. He's only laid off a load of looney woke lefties. And if Twitter disappears forever, everyone wins Very Happy
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PostPosted: 02:37 - 16 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
Oh, you're free to say whatever you want...

https://i.imgflip.com/70w6m8.jpg

...but your employer is also free to take umbrage Wink TBF there aren't many large corporates where you can freely slag off the boss and get away with it.

I wonder if Musk found a note in his desk "I'm afraid there is no money." Thinking


Lots of people getting fired aren’t even slagging him off though, they’re simply correcting him on incorrect statements he’s making publicly. Every decent boss would listen to their experienced employees if they point out something is wrong or dangerous. Musk is too thin skinned and assumes He is the only one that’s right all the time.
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 16 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Discretion.

If I'm at a party and I overhear my boss shooting his mouth off to impress some numpties I wouldn't insert myself into the group and publicly piss on his cornflakes it'd be a tug of the arm and "can I have a quiet word?"
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 16 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I said at the time, he's the richest man in the world worth something like $250 billion.

I would have thought he could have done something better with one sixth of that wealth than buy twitter. Seems like he thought so too in the end, but was forced to buy it when out came the LOOPY LAWYERS.

What I would say is that social media is full 'B' list celebs formally announcing their flounce (Sully was the last one I saw), but nothing about people joining up, which presumably some are.
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 16 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Latest missive: "Work lots more than your contracted hours or get fired"

The guy is a complete cunt.
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 16 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Latest missive: "Work lots more than your contracted hours or get fired"

Where does he say that?

From: Elon Musk

To: Team [at Twitter]

Subj. A Fork in the Road

Date: Nov. 16, 2022 [time stamp removed]

Going forward, to build a breakthrough Twitter 2.0 and succeed in an increasingly competitive world, we will need to be extremely hardcore. This will mean working long hours at high intensity. Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade.

Twitter will also be much more engineering-driven. Design and product management will still be very important and report to me, but those writing great code will constitute the majority of our team and have the greatest sway.

At its heart, Twitter is a software and servers company, so l think this makes sense.

If you are sure that you want to be part of the new Twitter, please click yes on the link below:

[Link removed]

Anyone who has not done so by 5pm ET tomorrow (Thursday) will receive three months of severance.

Whatever decision you make, thank you for your efforts to make Twitter successful.

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PostPosted: 17:41 - 16 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right there in the email... Accept new hours or sling your hook. The 3 month's severance is likely the legal minimum.

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-twitter-staff-expect-80-hour-work-weeks-report-2022-11
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 16 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Latest missive: "Work lots more than your contracted hours or get fired"

Where does he say that?

From: Elon Musk

To: Team [at Twitter]

Subj. A Fork in the Road

Date: Nov. 16, 2022 [time stamp removed]

Going forward, to build a breakthrough Twitter 2.0 and succeed in an increasingly competitive world, we will need to be extremely hardcore. This will mean working long hours at high intensity. Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade.

Twitter will also be much more engineering-driven. Design and product management will still be very important and report to me, but those writing great code will constitute the majority of our team and have the greatest sway.

At its heart, Twitter is a software and servers company, so l think this makes sense.

If you are sure that you want to be part of the new Twitter, please click yes on the link below:

[Link removed]

Anyone who has not done so by 5pm ET tomorrow (Thursday) will receive three months of severance.

Whatever decision you make, thank you for your efforts to make Twitter successful.

Elon


So, to paraphrase, work longer hours than you're contracted for without any compensation for the extra time or fuck off. We'll give you money to shut you up if you do decide to fuck off by the way and of course we don't give a shite about the length of time you've worked for Twatter or your loyalty.

Nobby has it right. I used to admire Musk but these days I think he's a spoiled rich brat that doesn't give a toss about anyone else.
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 16 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you lot work at Twitter?
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 16 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure that email would count as a dismissal notice in the UK. Basically accept undefined and fundamental changes to your T&Cs by clicking a link or you will be dismissed. The lawyers would have a field day with that here.

However, freedom.
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 16 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Latest missive: "Work lots more than your contracted hours or get fired"

The guy is a complete cunt.


So a cunt threatening to lay off a bunch of cunts if they won't pull their weight? How awful! Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 16 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Latest missive: "Work lots more than your contracted hours or get fired"

The guy is a complete cunt.


Cant blame him, easy riders doing a half arsed job because of their prestige, If Twitter isnt making a profit, how do they expect to get paid?

Funny how you're against this , how much does the MOD piss down the drain with procurement/projects ?
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 16 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

He'll need a twitter 2.0 because I bet the code is a Heath-Robinson clusterfuck and he's effectively auto-dismissed the people who know where the knotted string goes.

It's ok though, if it follows the government procurement model, they will be able to sell him their services for 3x their previous pay on a consultancy basis in a short while.
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 16 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
He'll need a twitter 2.0 because I bet the code is a Heath-Robinson clusterfuck and he's effectively auto-dismissed the people who know where the knotted string goes.



Yep and the guy who called him out on his bollocks and explained about the clusterfuck got sacked for his trouble. This link actually details the exchanges.

https://www.theregister.com/2022/11/14/musk_twitter_rpc_spat/

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It's ok though, if it follows the government procurement model, they will be able to sell him their services for 3x their previous pay on a consultancy basis in a short while.


Half of that is governments insistance on having a headcount budget as well as a cost budget. Rees-Moggs recent plan to reduce the number of civil servants would just have meant that external contractors would have been paid 3 times the amount for the same work but that would make the taxpayers alliance happy because less civil servants....
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 16 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
Do you lot work at Twitter?


No cunt does any more, except the one at the top.
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 16 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

xX-Alex-Xx wrote:
chickenstrip wrote:
Do you lot work at Twitter?


No cunt does any more, except the one at the top.


So Twitter has shut down?
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 16 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

He’s just having a laugh though isn’t he? He’s got so much money he can afford to burst Twitter’s pompous bubble.
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 16 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it's a private company, he owns it, he can do what he likes with it.
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PostPosted: 00:32 - 17 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

bhinso wrote:
What I would say is that social media is full 'B' list celebs formally announcing their flounce (Sully was the last one I saw), but nothing about people joining up, which presumably some are.


If the Muskrat is to be believed the number of accounts and and interactions has increased. Don't forget Twitter exists in places other than the USA (where the loud flouncing most occurs.) Reports from Japan for example say that Twitter is now a really nice place without the idiots, lots of serious anime discussions going on.
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 17 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

$4m a week it's losing.
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 17 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote:
$4m a week it's losing.


No wonder the previous owners wanted shot of. Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 17 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's similar to others such as YouTube, which also doesn't make a profit. Facebook DOES - but it's the exception, apparently.
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 18 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

The new "spend all your waking hours working for me or fuck off" policy is doing well so far...

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/nov/17/elon-musk-twitter-closes-offices-loyalty-oath-resignations

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On Thursday evening, the version of the Twitter app used by employees began slowing down, according to one source familiar with the matter, who estimated that the public version of Twitter was at risk of breaking during the night. Website DownDetector reported a significant uptick in user reports of issues on the site.

“If it does break, there is no one left to fix things in many areas,”


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PostPosted: 12:35 - 18 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

It appears that the vast majority of the people who got the 'work harder or fuck off' email have chosen option 2.
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