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byrdcj2015
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 24 Nov 2022    Post subject: HELP PLEASE Reply with quote

Hello I am COMPLETELY new to this & have no clue what I'm doing or have gotten myself into lol. I have come acrossed a frame which I was told was a 1974 Kawasaki F7 175 Enduro & I want to restore it for the grandkids. I can not find a VIN & can only seem to find this number MC-020946 stamped to the steering head by the sticker. I can't seem to attach a photo for some reason.
I am curious as to if I told correctly as to what I have & does anyone know where the VIN is & what the MC number is...Google has been helpless to any new info
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 24 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take a photo, that'll help us. The number on the headstock is the frame number, and on some bikes that doubles up as the VIN. I am not sure if bikes of that era actually had VIN numbers it seems they became compulsory in 1981.

For future reference, it's worth putting the make and model of the bike in the thread title, and/or the name of the problem rather than just HELP PLEASE.

We have a thousand threads titled like that and it actually doesn't encourage users to help, it puts them off, if anything.
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 24 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

The attachment system on the forum is pretty bad. It'd be easier to upload the photos to an external service and post the links.

But yes, '70s bikes might not have a VIN just frame and engine numbers. Sometimes you can find lists of such things to get a definitive make/model but otherwise you'd need to consult with the official owners' club for your country.
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PostPosted: 00:04 - 25 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

On every bike I've owned, the VIN is the frame number.

If you are in the UK, be aware it is highly unlikely that you'll be able to find out the original registration number from the frame number. So if you want to put it back on the road, it'll need to be re-registered. You may be able to get an age-related registration if you can get an ageing certificate from an owners club who usually have records of when a particular frame number was manufactured, they usually charge for this service.
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PostPosted: 00:32 - 25 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am in the U.S. and even after hours of searching online I can not find and information on the MC-020946. I even search Kawasaki 1974 Motorcycle made in Japan
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PostPosted: 00:58 - 25 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you saying all you've got is an unknown frame
and want to make a motorcycle for the grand kids out of it?
I hope you've got plenty dollah and years of experience doing this
sort of thing because I can think of many easier, cheaper and quicker
ways to do this

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PostPosted: 01:15 - 25 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

WD Forte wrote:
Are you saying all you've got is an unknown frame


If all they've got is a frame, they don't have a project, they have a nightmare. Even more so if the idea is to return it to original condition in some fashion. Genuinely OP, if that's your plan, stop now. Go to ebay and search for that model of bike, in decent condition, and buy that. You'll save yourself money and years of effort. There will be plenty of work to do keeping it running anyway.
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PostPosted: 01:54 - 25 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

byrdcj2015 wrote:
I am in the U.S. and even after hours of searching online I can not find and information on the MC-020946. I even search Kawasaki 1974 Motorcycle made in Japan


That's not a part number, it's an individual frame number. Yours is the only frame with that number.

Going by one of the big European parts suppliers, the F7 was the 1971 model. They made an F7C in 1974 for export to USA and Canada.

https://www.cmsnl.com/kawasaki-f7c-1974-usa_model15108/partslist/#.Y4ASHSXgrRY
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byrdcj2015
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PostPosted: 04:36 - 25 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well WD Fotre & Zen Dog my finances, time & effort are of none of your concerns but I'll sure send you a photo when finished. I've rebuilt plenty but never from just handle bars, frame & tires.
And to Stinkwheel..thanks for the info
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 25 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

byrdcj2015 wrote:
Well WD Fotre & Zen Dog my finances, time & effort are of none of your concerns


Pretty sure that they have no interest in your finances, time or effort.
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 25 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

byrdcj2015 wrote:
Well WD Fotre & Zen Dog my finances, time & effort are of none of your concerns but I'll sure send you a photo when finished. I've rebuilt plenty but never from just handle bars, frame & tires.
And to Stinkwheel..thanks for the info


To be fair to them it's hard learned advice from years of experience. If you think you can do it then great. The US has a larger selection of parts in enormous breakers yard type places. We could only dream of that sort of thing here, especially as a frame like that would have likely returned to the earth as rust about 30 years before now.
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 25 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 13:36 - 25 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

byrdcj2015 wrote:
Well WD Fotre & Zen Dog my finances, time & effort are of none of your concerns

And there goes any incentive for anyone to bother helping you. Why are yanks such entitled fucks? Piss off, utter mingewaffle.
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 25 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

byrdcj2015 wrote:
Well WD Fotre & Zen Dog my finances, time & effort are of none of your concerns



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PostPosted: 15:20 - 25 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Take a photo, that'll help us. The number on the headstock is the frame number, and on some bikes that doubles up as the VIN.


Frame/chassis No. is always the VIN number. Some bikes (Harleys, maybe others) have an additional number under the seat.

MarJay wrote:
I am not sure if bikes of that era actually had VIN numbers it seems they became compulsory in 1981.


17 digit VIN's became compulsory in 1981 for cars, previous to this they were 11 digits. Some Manufacturers used less. Bikes, I don't know if 17 digits ever became compulsory, I know they were still on 11 digits in the late 80's.

There may be some vehicles that don't have frame or chassis numbers from manufacture but you are unlikely to ever see one.
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WD Forte
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 25 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

byrdcj2015 wrote:
Well WD Fotre & Zen Dog my finances, time & effort are of none of your concerns but I'll sure send you a photo when finished. I've rebuilt plenty but never from just handle bars, frame & tires.
And to Stinkwheel..thanks for the info


Really?
how does

"Hello I am COMPLETELY new to this & have no clue what I'm doing or have gotten myself into lol"

Translate into english then?

As Marjay says, There are many breakers yard in the US with acres of old bikes.
Picking up a mostly complete old beater in need of tlc would be a more rational approach to this.

I'm remind of an old colleague who would often talk of folk who would
"Spend a grand building a 500 quid bike"
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