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Posted: 12:19 - 02 Dec 2022 Post subject: CB100N Forever Project - Electrical Upgrade Questions |
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Hi Folks,
It's been a while since I've been on the forum and just as long since I've picked up the work on my CB100N project. I posted a while ago with questions about upgrading the electrics and had some great feedback.
https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=4742862#4742862
Rather than open an old post, it's probably best to start a new one. To recap, I have a heavily modified 1983 CB100N. The top end is now a mix of XR/L 185 cylinder/head components, the head has been ported and polished, I've got a performance camshaft, and a larger crank has been stuffed in the engine casings and I've got a big Mikuni carburettor waiting to go on.
I have upgraded the rear suspension and I am using heavier fork oil to get more feel from the front. The front disk brake has been upgraded to a hydraulic one because the original just plain sucked. Lastly, I've got wider wheels and tyres, mainly for looks but should help with handling as well.
So back to the topic. I want to upgrade the electrics to 12volt for better lighting and the ability to run an arduino controlled PDU to run the lights, indicators, etc. I want to bin the point and condensor and I am considering an EFI conversion using a Speeduino NO2C. The latter might not happen due to the layout of the stator and rotor assembly. We'll see though.
Anyway, onto my questions.
1) Is it possible to upgrade the CB100N stator to 3-phase? Does anyone do an upgrade kit or will I have to rewind the old one for 3-phase?
2) Someone said that an XL185 CDI ingnition could be a straight swap but given that it is a 6v setup, I'd rather do everything as 12v. So, I need a recommendation for a suitable supplier.
Now, many people would read this and simply say "WHY?". I get it but I say, why not? It's fun and I'm learning stuff. It makes no financial sense whatsoever and I don't think purists are going to shed a tear over ruining classic old CB100N. If this sort of thing offends you, well... it's my bike and I'll do what I like to it.
Right. This has gone on long enough. Thanks for reading and thanks in advance for your help.
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Posted: 14:38 - 02 Dec 2022 Post subject: |
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WD Forte wrote: | Yes pretty, but 'chrome dont get you home'
its the stator I want to see.
Bespoke build? fine, but plan the work, work the plan as they say
Electrically I'd start with the core systems of charge and ignition
lights etc later they're easy.
Arduino PDU ? you mean power distribution unit?
Duino's are fun, been playing with them for yonks but
its a simple bike, so personally would see no benefit in making a simple process complicated. |
Each to their own and all that I guess. ...but hey, I like the bling.
Anyhoo, you're correct regarding planning. Note, this is the plan reset phase. You're also correct with starting with the core, hence the first question about the stator. I didn't get that you wanted to see a picture of it so here it is. It's a bog standard 2-wire CB100N stator. I hope the pictures help.
As for the arduino and PDU, yes I do indeed mean Power Distribution Unit. The benefit is really in learning so the more complex the better. It goes beyond sensible, so it's just something I want to do.
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Posted: 14:41 - 02 Dec 2022 Post subject: |
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Chazzman_bm wrote: | Here's a picture of the engine in bits. I've just pulled this stuff out of storage so everything needs a proper cleanup.
On the left, you'll see the standard CB100N block head and carb, on the right, is the modified head, block and Mikuni carb. Obviously the bottom end is in the foreground, where you can see it's been opened up to fit the larger cylinder. Maybe not so obvious is the crankshaft which is definitely larger than standard.
The guys at BDK Race Engineering did all the work a VERY long time ago. I'm still impressed with their work.
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Obvoius and possibly daft question.. - why didn't you use the whole 185 motor?
Also the machined head hemi size diamter looks a lot smaller than the bore - unless the angles are deceiving.. ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
Then: Fizz, RS200, KL250, XJ550, Laverda Alpina, XJ600, FZS600 |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 1 year, 143 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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