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PostPosted: 21:51 - 07 Jan 2023    Post subject: Going back to cruising Reply with quote

Needs change. Touring specifically I no longer need to do so I'm weighing up the totally gai Kawasaki Vulcan vs. swapping the XSR for the old fella's* Triumph Bonneville America Thinking What can I say? There's something about arse-less chaps that are irresistible Smile

tl;dr metric vs. imperial cruisers, EFI Jap vs US/UK carbs.

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PostPosted: 21:59 - 07 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cruising? Shouldn't this be in random banter with a NSFW label?
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 07 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

0ddly enough the Vulcan S has caught my eye recently. the low seat height is the main attraction, but i like the look of it too Embarassed

the Moto Guzzi V7 is another thats popped up on the radar.
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 07 Jan 2023    Post subject: Re: Going back to cruising Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
Needs change. Touring specifically I no longer need to do so I'm weighing up the totally gai Kawasaki Vulcan vs. swapping the XSR for the old fella's* Triumph Bonneville America Thinking What can I say? There's something about arse-less chaps that are irresistible Smile

tl;dr metric vs. imperial cruisers, EFI Jap vs US/UK carbs.

*My father-in-law


Are you conversant with the fact they are Arseless for a reason? Shocked

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PostPosted: 23:02 - 07 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 23:25 - 07 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're looking at the Vulcan 650, it's using the engine from the ER-6. I would expect that to be a bit revvy for a cruiser. I know a guy that had one when they came out, but he got it because it was cheap and an alternative to his old 125 commuter.

Borrow the bonneville for a bit.
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 07 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hinckley or Meridan Bonnie?
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PostPosted: 01:08 - 08 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Hinckley or Meridan Bonnie?


No idea, early 2000s Speedmaster with bells on AFAIK. Is it important?
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PostPosted: 01:40 - 08 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
stinkwheel wrote:
Hinckley or Meridan Bonnie?


No idea, early 2000s Speedmaster with bells on AFAIK. Is it important?


Hinckley:
https://www.thebikemarket.co.uk/media/1474417/Red%202.jpg

Meridan:
https://www.webbikeworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/65TriT120R-l-1.jpg

So Hinckley.
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PostPosted: 02:07 - 08 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, definitely the former. IIRC the old fella bought the very newest Triumph that wasn't EFI. I said in passing one day, as a joke, that I'd swap my XSR for it and he seemed dead serious with the affirmative. This is the same bike I managed to ride down to Box Hill with the front tyre at 10 psi Smile

There's something about foot plates (or at least foot forward pegs) I like. I think Freud would have a comment if he were still alive Laughing And it's a strange combination hooning about on a cruiser that is neither a metric cruiser nor a tacky Harley Thinking
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 08 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
...the very newest Triumph that wasn't EFI.


Doh! Now I've sobered up I realise the flaw there: needs to be either Euro 3 or vintage (>40yo) to go in the ULEZ. For a Speedmaster that'd be 2008 EFI and later.
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 08 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well at least you spotted that early
You wouldn't want find out you'd been cruising all those Molly shops up that London
and picked up a load of tickets as well as some rough trade.
If you bought a carbed one you'd be confined to dogging in the suburbs
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PostPosted: 01:22 - 09 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, leaning back towards the Vulcan. There seems to be plenty of them about, various conditions/mileage/prices.
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PostPosted: 01:52 - 09 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

This one looks nice, what about his one?

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PostPosted: 01:53 - 09 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

An early Honda Magna would be over 40 years old now... Just saying.

https://ridermagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/IMG_8032-featured.jpg

This one will be 40 next year. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/175559604437
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PostPosted: 02:04 - 09 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's wrong with a Shadow?
a Honda built shafty (750C) perfick unless you want go full Valkyrie/GL1800
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PostPosted: 02:45 - 09 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
An early Honda Magna would be over 40 years old now... Just saying.


One was being MOT'd last time I was round one of the local garages. A V-Four with four proper rorty exhausts. Genuinely really sounded good, and it was still on factory exhausts I think, definitely not a modern anodyne Honda noise at all. Was a later 90's one though, like this.

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On the Vulcan though, modern emissions regulations have been the cause of many a motorcycle design crime, mainly in the area of exhausts. But even in a field with so many potential competitors, the standard exhaust on the Vulcan 650 stands out as spectacularly awful.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/H3810uEN9xU/maxresdefault.jpg

But the whole bike just doesn't gel in terms of looks really. The overall design is all swoopy, and then the cylinder head looks like Darth Vader's codpiece. But they clearly couldn't be arsed to change it, so they split the difference on the radiator shrouds and swingarm plates. And then you've got the exhaust hanging off like a chargrilled chicken drumstick. No idea what it's like to ride, but it's not a looker.
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PostPosted: 07:45 - 09 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/bike-details/202212132486837?advertising-location=at_bikes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjuWiKz9zno

That's the only time I've ever enjoyed watching anything about a cruiser.
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PostPosted: 11:54 - 09 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem I have with Hondas (and why I wouldn't go back to the Rebel) is the mid position foot pegs. I much prefer foot forward plates/pegs on a cruiser.

For modern bikes (Euro 3 or newer) there's only the Rebel and Vulcan available in any quantity under 650cc. Priority 1 is weaving about city traffic and even the Vulcan might be a bit lardy for that. Certainly a Speedmaster or Yamaha Bolt is too much - TBF I'm asking for stupid with "small engined cruiser" - but fuck it, I begrudge paying the higher road tax band for a bigger engine Smile

Not relevant for classic bikes with no road tax ofc. I'd probably go full tart-mode and get a Virago but it'd have to be a late '80s one* so not worth worrying about till I hear some noises about how the ULEZ is going to treat Euro 3 and vintage bikes.

*Where they worked out the kinks... he said with no sense of irony.
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PostPosted: 13:22 - 09 Jan 2023    Post subject: Re: Going back to cruising Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
Needs change. .. I'm weighing up the totally gai Kawasaki Vulcan vs. swapping the XSR for the old fella's* Triumph Bonneville America Thinking What can I say? There's something about arse-less chaps that are irresistible Smile


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PostPosted: 15:24 - 09 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feet forward, LEZ compliant , good for filtering in lotsa traffic
Hmm you do know you're talking this dont you?


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PostPosted: 15:52 - 09 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Triumph Thunderbird 1700

Way less gay than a Harley. Should be LEZ Compliant.
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 09 Jan 2023    Post subject: Re: Going back to cruising Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
There's something about arse-less chaps that are irresistible Smile

Oh.

Ass-less chaps and arse-less chaps are two very different things.
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 09 Jan 2023    Post subject: Re: Going back to cruising Reply with quote

MCN wrote:
Are you conversant with the fact they are Arseless for a reason? Shocked

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You saying I'd get a load of arse banging if I got a cruiser?

Fuck. Why didn't someone tell me sooner? Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 09 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
TBF I'm asking for stupid with "small engined cruiser" - but fuck it, I begrudge paying the higher road tax band for a bigger engine Smile


Royal Enfield Meteor? Pegs are pretty far forwards and you can get aftermarket super-fat footrests.
https://www.royalenfield.com/content/dam/royal-enfield/meteor-new/section8/new/Fireball_Yellow/j1d_d1_yellow_0000.jpg

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