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PostPosted: 17:23 - 12 Jan 2023    Post subject: Job change - imposter syndrome? Reply with quote

Yo.

I've been in the same job for just over 11 years, and feel as it is currently not as good as I'd like in the workplace, I need a change. I'm obviously very comfortable here and I don't want to leave, but their way of working now they have been taken over is just not sitting well with me.

I have been approached by others and now have a job offer which I have accepted and will be leaving this role next month... but I am genuinely scared of change.

I'm taking a wealth of knowledge, taught by the guys in my current work and also a shed load of self taught stuff into a role that is remarkably similar with a few differences which I can learn but I can't shake the feeling I am either under qualified for the role or I am just swapping for swapping sake.

There aren't many similarly paid jobs in my local area and I am fully remote which is a superb benefit, but I don't want to dislike the job and given the nose I have had around, there aren't many remote jobs in the area I want to go in to.

Ideally I want another 5-8 years comfortable then I won't have to worry again, but I do genuinely have these thoughts on my mind all day and its giving me sleepless nights.

Any advice?
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 12 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

As someone who is also very comfortable with no changes but have got.to the point that I don't want to work with certain people in the past (don't tell me how to do my job, your just a project manager and when I say don't do this because we have no physical way of paying that person you fucking listen to me) I would say go for it anyway.
No point doing a.job where you are unhappy.
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 12 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's totally normal. You'll start with the new place and it'll feel weird, but you'll get up to speed in 3-6 months and after about a year you'll be bitching about the institutional problems within the organisation and the office politics.

Upward movement is necessary to progress and it's necessary to feel a touch out of your comfort zone. Embrace it.
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 12 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Move on. Moving on is good for the soul.
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 12 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got used to changes of work place when in the RAF, with postings lasting typically 3 years, then onto to a completely different job at a different unit.
Then after I came out of the RAF and started working at motorcycle dealerships, I used to move from place to place quite a bit, as much for the change of scenery as anything else. The job was always pretty much the same, just each work place's individual approaches that differed but you soon get the hang of their ways. Employers don't expect you to know everything about how they work when you arrive, bound to be a bit of a learning process in that regard.
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 12 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll probably find you resent adopting different ways of working less in a new job than if someone tried to make you work differently in your old one.
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 12 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

A long time ago I worked as a field engineer and the company got taken over. The [now ex-]MD came down to the workshop for a chat: "...great opportunity... blah, blah, blah..." "...obviously there'll need to be some pay adjustments..."

To which I barked out "oh, so you've been fucking us over all these years?"

Worried grin, bead of sweat on the forehead and he carried on with the spiel. I looked for a new job the next day.
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 12 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just new job nerves after too long being comfortable. Just get on with it and enjoy learning how to apply your old skills to the new place. Anything more you'll pick up as you go.

Brain food is good, as is a change of scene.
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 12 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being headhunted is a bonus.
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 12 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had VERY bad imposter syndrome for almost the whole of this first year.
Fuck. Oops!
Not Jennifer the Omniscient after all.
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It'll be alright Paddy.
Ya always have to work harder (or as pointed out, just differently than you are used to) until you get the hang of it.

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PostPosted: 21:59 - 12 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Being headhunted is a bonus.

Very true.
Every time I doubt myself on something, I remind myself that an ex-boss recommended me to my now-boss (without me even asking him to Laughing ) and they decided I was worth the gamble. It's a morale booster when you are feeling flighty about things.

And you get a buzz when you realize you've learnt a bunch of new stuff Cool Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 12 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work for a bunch of absolute khunts.

I would move in a heartbeat. I'd go as far as to simply walk off the job and cause a bit of carnage as the ineptly scramble to replace me.
If I was really cute, I could cost them a packet too. Several thousand dollah in downtime.
I would love to be that vindictive but I have some professional integrity left.
(Taking a swing at a one or two of a few of them is so appealing to me as well. Anyone who tried to intervene would get knocked out too.)
But I work in an industry where shite spreads around so it could be my last position in the Oil patch. Or a room in a dangerous prison.

The usual reasons for a jump:
Employer expects me to continue to do more tomorrow than I did today and for the same pay. Which is less pay as there's no link to inflation in the marketplace.

Oil and gas is about humped as investment is mainly left minimal maintenance of assets. And not much exploration work. Wind and solar to blame.

Previously, the Oil market was more buoyant so jumping around was acceptable.
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 12 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Professions are over reliant on qualifications. What really counts is depth of knowledge and experience and it sounds like you have those in spades. Changing jobs is a hugely stressful experience but you usually find that once you're in the new post and get used to the way the new company works, it's all the same.

I've changed professions four times in my working life. Not jobs, professions. I've been a retail manager (fuck knows how I put up with that one Laughing ), an electronics engineer specialising in audio and digital design and development, a network manager (I blagged my way into that one after we moved here) working with a mixed bag of technologies, and finally Information Security management. Each move was stressful initially but I soon found my feet and realised that I had the knowledge and experience to fulfil the role.

If you're unhappy with the current job and you're happy that the new position meets your needs then go for it. You'll be a lot happier once you've settled in. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 12 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:

(Taking a swing at a one or two of a few of them is so appealing to me as well. Anyone who tried to intervene would get knocked out too.)
But I work in an industry where shite spreads around so it could be my last position in the Oil patch.


May as well have a Dundee postcode.
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PostPosted: 10:02 - 13 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Islander wrote:
Professions are over reliant on qualifications.


Not a problem if you're headhunted, most jobs I've been poached. For my current job I actually had to google what you put in a C.V. Very Happy I think you get to a certain age, over 40 maybe, and qualifications are neither here nor there. No one is the slightest bit interested in my Novell certification Crying or Very sad

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I've changed professions four times in my working life. Not jobs, professions. I've been a retail manager (fuck knows how I put up with that one Laughing ), an electronics engineer specialising in audio and digital design and development, a network manager (I blagged my way into that one after we moved here) working with a mixed bag of technologies, and finally Information Security management.


TBF only the retail job is a different "profession." All the rest are just techno-mage stuff the muggles can't handle Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 13 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
Islander wrote:
Professions are over reliant on qualifications.


Not a problem if you're headhunted, most jobs I've been poached. For my current job I actually had to google what you put in a C.V. Very Happy I think you get to a certain age, over 40 maybe, and qualifications are neither here nor there. No one is the slightest bit interested in my Novell certification Crying or Very sad


Oh. You have one of those too. Laughing

CNE here.

I've made my own way into the first three and was headhunted for the fourth. That was an odd experience at the time but satisfying in its way.

Easy-X wrote:
TBF only the retail job is a different "profession." All the rest are just techno-mage stuff the muggles can't handle Laughing


That's one way of looking at it. I suppose my knowledge and experience made it a lot easier to move into the IT realm but I still had to pick up an entirely different skill set and way of working so I'm not convinced. Information Security is a whole different kettle of fish from IT and although I advise and guide of the IT mob on the cyber side of infosec, I'm completely independent and align more with governance and strategy. It really is a very different profession.
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PostPosted: 12:05 - 13 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

The principles of information security date back to the dawn of time, with regards to war at least, but everything's online now so I'd rather have someone with some IT experience under their belt.

I think the only job I truly blagged was as a high street computer shop repair engineer. I just walked in one day and basically went "nice shop, I'd like a job here" (I lived about 2 roads away at the time.) Unfortunately the boss had a liking for Bolivian Marching Powder, something I discovered much, much later Sad

The upside was the curry house next door and the pub on the other side of the road Smile
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 13 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

who is it on here that does financing on aeroplanes and special assets? To date I think that's the most interesting job I have heard of on BCF Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:40 - 13 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 13:29 - 13 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
No point doing a job where you are unhappy.


I wouldn't say I am unhappy, I am just not on the same page as the people running it, its changed from a family type affair to red tape and can't do x without a business case. I understand why, but I also don't understand other stuff that happens.

MarJay wrote:
It's totally normal.

Upward movement is necessary to progress and it's necessary to feel a touch out of your comfort zone. Embrace it.


I agree, I don't mind being out of my comfort zone, but I like to know I am capable to take on whats thrown at me. I should be, but I still worry.

Diggs wrote:
Move on. Moving on is good for the soul.


I am feeling that right now!

chickenstrip wrote:
Employers don't expect you to know everything about how they work when you arrive, bound to be a bit of a learning process in that regard.


Good point, I didn't know much when I came here, everything I know is really built from my time here so I see that as a bonus when moving.

stinkwheel wrote:
You'll probably find you resent adopting different ways of working less in a new job than if someone tried to make you work differently in your old one.


Most definitely agree with that. I'm pretty stuck in my ways and tend to do my own thing here.

UncleBFester wrote:
Brain food is good, as is a change of scene.


100% - I love learning, so I do see that. Technically my physical scenery won't change but I know what you mean!

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Being headhunted is a bonus.


I would say it was more 'would you like to come work with us' whilst knowing where I currently worked - very chill interview, consider that headhunted, my name is known in our industry so that helps!

hellkat wrote:
It'll be alright Paddy.
Ya always have to work harder (or as pointed out, just differently than you are used to) until you get the hang of it.


I always work hard I feel, but I work smart and hopefully I do fit in with their way of working.

MCN wrote:
I work for a bunch of absolute khunts.


Erm... I would say a very small portion of my colleagues are, but like 2 in 100.

Islander wrote:
Professions are over reliant on qualifications. What really counts is depth of knowledge and experience and it sounds like you have those in spades. Changing jobs is a hugely stressful experience but you usually find that once you're in the new post and get used to the way the new company works, it's all the same.


I have no qualifications, zero. I should push to get some but I am more of an "experience than certificate" type of person, I can't prove I know Cisco/Forti/MS stuff, but I can show you I am competent etc Its the one thing stopping me from applying for even a lower role, I would take a less work/less stress job but they are looking for a check box in some places. Ideally, I'd be a network manager of a school... enough downgrade to be less hectic, but also retain some of the best bits of my job.

Thanks all... I feel its going to be a weird 3-6 months for sure..

Also fuck, I managed to accidentally change my name. 10/10
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 13 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

P. wrote:


Also fuck, I managed to accidentally change my name. 10/10


Obviously haven't been hacked by Ste at any rate. I hope this isn't an IT job....
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PostPosted: 00:25 - 15 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

P. wrote:

chickenstrip wrote:
Employers don't expect you to know everything about how they work when you arrive, bound to be a bit of a learning process in that regard.


Good point, I didn't know much when I came here, everything I know is really built from my time here so I see that as a bonus when moving.



You might find you know some stuff they don't, or you do things in a different/better way that they never thought of.

I changed jobs 18 months ago, after 15 years of working in the same place.

I was interviewed and offered the job by someone I wouldn't be working directly for and I only met my manager on the first day I walked back through the door - that day was like starting at a new school, knew no-one, didn't know the systems or way of working, I was so far out of my comfort zone, I might as well have been on another planet.

What made it seem worse is that I am so much more experienced (and older) than anyone else in the department, their expectation of me was high and my own expectation was even higher.

For weeks I would go home at night and wonder if I was ever going to get it, but ultimately my experience got me through and one day it all just clicked - took about 4 months though.

I did realise quite quickly that the actual job wasn't for me, so I'm going to have to go through it all again, once I find something else, but I know I can deal with it now, so it was worth the pain to prove that.

One interesting thing I was told by a recruitment consultant, if you move from a long term position, it can take 3 or 4 goes to settle, so don't be surprised if, like me, you find yourself job hunting again quite soon.
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What made it seem worse is that I am so much more experienced (and older) than anyone else in the department


The guy on the next desk from me hadn't seen Star Wars... and wasn't even born when the first one came out. That's "old and experienced" for you Shocked
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 15 Jan 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
Shaft wrote:
What made it seem worse is that I am so much more experienced (and older) than anyone else in the department


The guy on the next desk from me hadn't seen Star Wars... and wasn't even born when the first one came out. That's "old and experienced" for you Shocked


My line manager has no knowledge of The Fast Show, I swear managers are getting younger all the time.
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Nobby the Bastard wrote:
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