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Fat Angry Scotsman wrote: | CorriganJ wrote: | Okay is noone calling out that this is definitely a scam?
Guy turns up saying "hey guys, isn't it weird that I keep winning on this site? Is it legit that I keep winning? Winning winning winning, it's so strange."
Then a few posts later "Guys totally random but if anyone else wants a go on that site where I keep winning here is a link where I get money if you play, total coincidence lol"
I mean I respect the hustle, we all gotta make a buck somewhere, and I'm not saying the raffles themself are a scam but still, NOONE going to call it out?
That said, seems like I nice chap, I might take a punt on something using the referal code (damn it he got me). |
I am generally a skeptical cunt but I don't think Apex66 is a scam. They do all their draws live, the number is picked live on stream using the Google random number generator. They then search live through all the numbers on the entry list for that number. As far as I am aware, there is no way to spoof this as the delay on stream is only one or two seconds. How do I know this is the delay? They do live competitions where the first person to type a specific word in the stream chat gets to play the higher or lower game. They turn the ipad the chat is running on towards the camera and you can see the replies coming up.
There are definately scams out there. I remember there being a big house here that was put up for raffle but they didn't say how many raffles were sold and that if all the tickets didn't sell then they would raffle off the amount raised minus "administration and management costs and fees" which were undisclosed. I saw straight through it that it was just a cash grab by a couple who leveraged their fancy house and the naivety of poorer people dreaming of a big house for a £20 ticket. Nobody was ever going to win the house, they were always going to do a cash prize and remain opaque around the winning of the prize too. Cunts.
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This was the thing I was talking about:
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/man-raffles-luxury-800k-mansion-10658663
It was actually £5 a ticket (I erroneously recalled £20), but they did do the old "oh we didn't sell all the tickets so cash prizes" routine:
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/2401154/punters-raging-shamus-angie-fitzsimons-mansion-raffle-withdraw-prize-cumbernauld/ |
Less that it's a scam that you won't ever win anything - more that it's gambling and that if you want a £250 helmet, you're better off just... paying the £250 for the helmet, instead of throwing tickets at it, because sure the tickets are only £1.50 but you're going to need £750 worth of them to get the £250 helmet.
My point was that our friend BRUN here isn't sharing this wonderful site with us because we are all going to win lots of prizes - statistically we are going to lose a lot more than we win. BRUN is trying to get people exctited about the site because he gets money every time someone uses his referal code. In a sense, we are all losing money betting on things we won't win so that BRUN can get lots of free £10 vouchers.
It's a small scale version of those people who pose in front of a lambourghini saying "all you need to do is buy my course and I will teach you how to become a millionaire as a day trader". Actually, the guy selling the course didn't make his fortune day trading, he made his "fortune" (enough to hire a lambourghini for a day, anyway) convincing people to pay for a course that is worthless. Meanwhile, the people who complete the course and go on to become day traders... statistically they lose money. It's even nastier when they try to sign people up to a specific trading platform where they also get kickbacks.
That said, I will take the £10 voucher, fling it at something I like on the off chance, then never look at the website again lest I become like our Señor Nuttall over here. ____________________ 1991 RD04 |
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Posted: 10:15 - 15 Aug 2023 Post subject: |
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Yea I am offering my code because I get £10 credit, thats the idea of the referral scheme, but you get £10 too, so for £1 spend, you can have £11 worth of entries, thats definitely worth it, its always worth a go, if someone had came to me with there code and I had never used the site I would have a go, someone at work used it and won £500 on there, someone has to win
I wouldn't want anyone on here to turn into an addicted Nuttall, his wins though are another story, I would love someone on here to win
If anyone does use my code, make sure you complete the transaction from the link, dont open it and go back to it 3 days later, use the link and get whatever you want and you will get your credit |
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I tracked their sales and what their likely gross profit is (I used the cheapest retail prices from google search as costs).
Given that they do a draw every four days and assuming this represents an average draw intake (likely represents a bad draw they kept moaning on stream they didn't sell well because everyone is on their holidays).
I reckon their Statement of Income and Retained Earnings is probably in the region of:
Turnover = £1,659,000
Cost of sales = £ 780,000
Gross profit = £ 879,000
I don't know their administrative expenses, etc so can't delve much deeper than that.
According to their Confirmation Statement, the shares are split equally amount the three Directors:
Daniel Guy Fulford,
Dean William Harfield,
Stuart Nevett.
So assuming they don't take a salary, their administrative expenses are capped at 20% (I don't see it costing more than £175.800 a year to run the website and pay incidentals, etc) and they retain 10% profit for future investment in the business (£87,000) then they are probably left with a pre-tax profit of £615,300.
Their tax burden on this figure would be £153,825 so profit after taxation around £461,475.
Assuming the three of them split it equally and take it out as a dividend then they three of them are probably making about £154,000 a year each off this business.
Not bad for doing a few hours work every 4 days.
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