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Posted: 18:46 - 11 Mar 2023 Post subject: 1930s Britain UK illegal immigration bill clear breach UNRC |
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From the forefronth of defending human rights and Churchill creating UN Refugees Convention to pariah state spreading 1930s hatred and lies like North Korea that is the disgrace for Britain now.
UK illegal immigration bill clear breach of UN Refugees convention.
UK gov. Sunak & Braverman lying there is not a single lawyer that accepts this law can be legal.
UK will be the only country in the civilsed world imprisoning people without access to court.
Chris Daw QC at LBC Friday 10 March 2023
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Posted: 00:02 - 12 Mar 2023 Post subject: |
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True story about Nazis, BBC, Tory MPs, Sunak & Braverman silencing Gary Lineker.
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Bhud wrote: | Val's got a point, even if it's the wrong thread. |
Just bear in mind Val is paid to make points on forums so there's an ulterior motive behind it.
Anyhoo, with regards to treaty obligations the UNHCR are "very concerned"
https://www.unhcr.org/uk/uk-immigration-and-asylum-plans-some-questions-answered-by-unhcr.html
Quote: | The vast majority of refugees have no way to legally reach the UK to claim asylum, regardless of how strong their need for protection is. A majority of those arriving over the Channel would be likely to be found to be refugees, were their claims to be considered by the Home Office on their merits. |
This is the central lie. They know it's a lie, we know it's a lie, they know we know it's a lie they don't care if we know it's a lie. One can claim asylum from anywhere but the entire world knows the asylum system is so broken in the UK applications effectively never get processed. The only difference is if you're on UK soil you get paid. (BTW is anyone complaining about France not upholding their treaty obligations while the swashbucklers are within their borders?) And the majority are not refugees but illegal economic colonists:
Quote: | A refugee, according to the Convention, is someone who is unable or unwilling to return to their country of origin owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group, or political opinion. |
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Quote: | In particular, the Convention does not apply to those for whom there are serious reasons for considering that they have committed war crimes or crimes against humanity, serious non-political crimes, or are guilty of acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations. |
It seems to be just as difficult to prove this point (to the legal satisfaction of human rights lawyers) as it is to process genuine asylum claims. There is a bit of a "get-out"
Quote: | Every refugee has duties to the country in which he finds himself, which require in particular that he conform to its laws and regulations as well as to measures taken for the maintenance of public order. |
Wait till they commit a crime then kick them out? Better than nothing I suppose. Expelling criminals or those of threat to national security (stabby-stabby Alan Snackbar) is fine as long as they're not dumped in a war zone.
Treaties are very serious, fair enough, but surely a country can bow out of them at some point? How about when the refugee budget exceeds the NHS budget, are we "allowed" to at least pause the treaty? I couldn't see anything in there Either you're signed up or you're not.
IMHO the central problem is the treaty is a rights based document and the UK isn't rights-based state like for example France. (If one is born in the UK the wait is 16~18 years to gain the equivalent "rights" whereas transit via channel dinghy affords the same rights after only 3 years.) The UK should either leave the HRC due to this incompatibility or at least change to a policy of malicious compliance. ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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We shouldn't lose sight of the fact that they are almost without exception travelling to the UK FROM a safe country and have usually passed through at least three other safe countries on their way here.
A cynical person might suggest the afore-mentioned safe countries are creating corridoors for displaced people to pass through until they reach a suitable holding area near enough the channel to make the crossing to the UK. A quick and easy way to make the problem go away.
If the EU was serious about helping refugees, they would register and process all the undocumented people they've allowed to travel across Europe then crammed into shanty towns within a handy distance of the English Channel. Maybe then we could talk about taking a reasonable proportion of them?
The same cynical person might suggest the French authorities all but help start the engines on the boats. Why is it just a French problem? Why isn't the great and powerful EU taking unified action to help these poor refugees? What are the EU currently doing to maintain their own border security? ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Posted: 15:04 - 13 Mar 2023 Post subject: |
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And your point? Why should I care about these 50 million people over my own family?[/quote]
You’re not a sociopath wishing to create division or profit from conflict.
You’re not developing munitions to explode families in new and interesting ways, no you want good food and a decent place to live and with the people you like/love.
That’s all we need. That’s what 50million people haven’t got. 50 million people like me and you.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 1 year, 16 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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