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PostPosted: 11:16 - 18 Mar 2023    Post subject: the quality of the modern Bobby... Reply with quote

50 police officers arrested in child porn raids
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-151784/50-police-officers-arrested-child-porn-raids.html
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 18 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Long list now, any good copper must be embarrassed to tell people what they do now days, Id be ashamed to wear the uniform, many have known about some of these bad coppers yet did nothing about it, knowing and doing nothing is as bad as the actual crime in many of these cases.
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 18 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

While 50 coppers arrested in child porn raids is pretty disguisting it's all got out of hand and is a witch hunt now.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not pro popo but every big and little thing is being plastered across MSM. There are thousands of good police officers and they are being dragged down by a few, and it is a few, and the media.

Maybe, in the same way that thay don't say someones race so they don't want to tar the whole community with one persons crimes we shold stop plastering the persons job all over the media.

Of course that would lead to screams of 'cover up'.

I don't know the answer except that obviously recruitment policy needs to improve, just at a time they are lowering it for diversity reasons according to some sources.

It's a right fcuk up but at least we don't give the majority guns.
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 18 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

To give some type of context, there are 135,573 cops in the UK although I presume that figure is now 135,523
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 18 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
To give some type of context, there are 135,573 cops in the UK although I presume that figure is now 135,523


And of the 1300 people arrested 4% were policeman officers. I’m not sure what to make of that. Or this -

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At a press conference at Scotland Yard today, Jim Gamble, assistant chief constable of the National Crime Squad, said he was not surprised at the number of police officers among the suspects.

"As police officers, we should expect to be held accountable," he said.

"Fifty police officers have been identified and we are not hiding that fact. We want you to know about that to reassure you.

"Police officers are member of the communities that they serve and there will be good people and bad people in the police."
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 18 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

bugeye_bob wrote:
Long list now, any good copper must be embarrassed to tell people what they do now days, Id be ashamed to wear the uniform, many have known about some of these bad coppers yet did nothing about it, knowing and doing nothing is as bad as the actual crime in many of these cases.


You mean like John Lydon and Jimmy Savile?
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PostPosted: 09:52 - 19 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

recman wrote:
bugeye_bob wrote:
Long list now, any good copper must be embarrassed to tell people what they do now days, Id be ashamed to wear the uniform, many have known about some of these bad coppers yet did nothing about it, knowing and doing nothing is as bad as the actual crime in many of these cases.


You mean like John Lydon and Jimmy Savile?


Now thats more about dirty politicians helping Pedos who have dirt on them . . . .

Not the coppers killing people or raping . . .
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 19 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm? Surely as a police officer, their conduct should be beyond reproach.
Their integrity should be of the highest value.
We seem to be forgetting that in this day and age , this does not appear to be the case in the modern police forces.

The media keep finding/revealing these stories of bad coppers.

Maybe it’s time to look at recruiting policies and stop pandering to political correctness/making up the numbers and spend more time ensuring those that do join the force are fit and proper persons.
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 19 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are the academic qualification requirements for police officers in the UK these days?
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 19 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
What are the academic qualification requirements for police officers in the UK these days?


I'd imagine it would vary from force to force.
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 19 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

This tells you everything you need to know about the officers in uniform today,
They called him the Rapist, yet nothing was ever done.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/wayne-couzens-nickname-met-police-sarah-everard-b945119.html



https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/wayne-couzens-whatsapp-messages-rape-met-police-iopc-sarah-everard-indecent-exposure-b1065181.html
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 20 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cop mentality is as world wide problem. Its the give someone a badge within an institutional gang syndrome. It could probably be tackled with sensible organisational development but does anyone believe such a thing has been possible within any of our public services over the last dozen years?

I think we're a bit blasé about our society, thinking were a liberal first world organised nation where such development happens automatically. We're no longer such a thing, we cant even lay a strip of tarmac competently never mind build cutting edge modern organisations.
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 20 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, and when unconscious bias, active bystander and similar training is called woke and ministers of departments decidethey have no truck with it nothing will change.
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 20 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Yes, and when unconscious bias, active bystander and similar training is called woke and ministers of departments decidethey have no truck with it nothing will change.


Of course. Unconsious bias is the be all and end all of sortying modern day policing. I'm sure those coppers done for child pornography were unconsiously biased towards children.

Reducing standards when it's all going to shit just to get minority numbers up is exactly the right way to go but hey, wokism rules.
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 20 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are ignoring 'active bystander' which I quoted as well.

This is about not ignoring obvious unacceptable behaviour even when it's directed at others.

There two go hand in hand. One is about being aware yourself that you may be displaying bias and other is identifying poor behaviours in others.

Don't complain about those behaviours being shown when you have no solution when there is one that is being derided as woke.
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 20 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Based on absolutely nothing, I'd be confident that even the most uptight dickhead policeman officer who lets his mates get away with all sorts of dodginess isn't going to be an active bystander in anything that's in the slightest bit even vaguely related to child sexual abuse.

On a different note, the idea of unconscious bias training is so woke and that's not in a good progressive way. Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 20 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
You are ignoring 'active bystander' which I quoted as well.

This is about not ignoring obvious unacceptable behaviour even when it's directed at others.

There two go hand in hand. One is about being aware yourself that you may be displaying bias and other is identifying poor behaviours in others.

Don't complain about those behaviours being shown when you have no solution when there is one that is being derided as woke.


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PostPosted: 20:01 - 20 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we must assume that ‘The Rapist’ nickname was thought to be an extreme laddish joke (like Nobby ‘The Bastard’ or indeed, ‘Ste 4 Mod’ [sorry Ste] ) and not a genuine recognition. You’d be amazed if any copper needing additional training in the form of ‘active bystander’ to recognise and report crimes.
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 20 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
I think we must assume that ‘The Rapist’ nickname was thought to be an extreme laddish joke (like Nobby ‘The Bastard’ or indeed, ‘Ste 4 Mod’ [sorry Ste] ) and not a genuine recognition. You’d be amazed if any copper needing additional training in the form of ‘active bystander’ to recognise and report crimes.


Apparently not. I understand that several in his whatsapp group have been prosecuted so it went beyond 'in joke' territory.


My 'bastard' moniker was a penance that has been previously documented over the fact that someone was too slow going to bcf bbq so I left her behind.

I was mortified to find out she'd literally just passed her test and was shitting herself at going on the motorway.
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 20 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it was a nickname used within a minority, similarly-minded clique and not a generally used epithet.
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 20 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently so. The people who didn't follow up the original indecent exposure incidents wouldn't have been in a small whats app group for VIP protection PCs he was in.
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 20 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
I think we must assume that ‘The Rapist’ nickname was thought to be an extreme laddish joke (like Nobby ‘The Bastard’ or indeed, ‘Ste 4 Mod’ [sorry Ste] ) and not a genuine recognition. You’d be amazed if any copper needing additional training in the form of ‘active bystander’ to recognise and report crimes.


Apparently not. I understand that several in his whatsapp group have been prosecuted so it went beyond 'in joke' territory.


My 'bastard' moniker was a penance that has been previously documented over the fact that someone was too slow going to bcf bbq so I left her behind.

I was mortified to find out she'd literally just passed her test and was shitting herself at going on the motorway.


I remember that Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 20 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's such a shame it fits so well.

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PostPosted: 01:17 - 21 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another story today.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65015479
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PostPosted: 01:25 - 21 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Based on absolutely nothing, I'd be confident that even the most uptight dickhead policeman officer who lets his mates get away with all sorts of dodginess isn't going to be an active bystander in anything that's in the slightest bit even vaguely related to child sexual abuse.

On a different note, the idea of unconscious bias training is so woke and that's not in a good progressive way. Laughing


Is this how people think? That children vulnerable to abuse are looked after when so called professionals are made aware of the situation? Believe me that's not how it works.
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