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PostPosted: 14:24 - 28 Mar 2023    Post subject: William Hill fined 19.2 Million Reply with quote

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William Hill let new customer bet £23,000 in 20 minutes. One person was able to spend and lose £70,134 in a month, while another deposited £73,535 and lost £14,068 in four months.

1st thing is I must say I'm not a gambler. I play cards for small stakes and have put the odd accumulater on footy matches but nothing bigger. It wouldn't bother me if gambling was shut down tomorrow but that isn't the point here.

I'm really rather confused by the whole thing. William Hill and all other gambling firms modus operandi is to part gamblers with their money. It seems from reading this, and please correct me if I am wrong, they have to also operated as gamblers anonymous and also money laundering police.

I'm curious how they are meant to do this. Do they phone up one of the above gamblers and ask them how much they have in their bank account and whether that can actually afford to gamble? Are they supposed to track where money has come from? If someone bets £10 grand is it not their buisness.

The other thing is how have the gambling commision come up with a 19.2 mill fine. It seems rather a random figure. WHo gets it? UK PLC? Gambling addiction charities?

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PostPosted: 14:32 - 28 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

It primarily due to the money laundering element.
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 28 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

People will always gamble, drink, fuck the wrong people and do all manor of dubious things, there's no stopping that. The question is when are people's vices being activiely exploited and what can we do about it Thinking
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 28 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had more than a few vices in my life but gambling has never even been on my radar. I couldn't even bring
myself to do it staying in Las Vegas for a few days.
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 28 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

I expect they doffed their caps, said we're very sorry sir it won't happen again, paid the 19.2 mil out of the XXX* mil plus they made out of problem gamblers and then laughed themselves stupid all the way to the pub, while instructing their web game guys to put a "I'm not a problem gambler' tick box onto the website.

Shall we pencil another hearing in, in say five years......










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PostPosted: 18:22 - 28 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
People will always gamble, drink, fuck the wrong people and do all manor of dubious things, there's no stopping that. The question is when are people's vices being activiely exploited and what can we do about it Thinking


Isn't that what pubs do for alkies, shops do for shopaholics, porn sites for perverts, religous sites for soft cvnts and vets for pet lovers do? Wink

Joking aside the online gambling sites obviously are everywhere and easy to access compared with the corner bookie shop but I'm not sure there is any easy answer to them.
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 28 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't care about gambling, drinking and smoking businesses suffering from clampdowns.
The sooner we can throw off the hunger for vice the better.
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 28 Mar 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some perspective:

Gambling £14 billion (Gross Gambling Yield, 2022)
National Lottery ~£8 billion (half yearly sales are just over £4 billion according to Camelot)
Drink £50 billion (Gross Revenue, 2022)
Retail £495 billion (Sales, 2022)
Porn? Ironically I found it difficult to find any hard numbers for the UK porn industry Smile Probably only a few billion as America dominates this sector.
Religion? Fuck all compared to the above, hundreds of millions at the most.
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