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PotatoHead202... |
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 Posted: 09:12 - 02 May 2023 Post subject: The Nightmare CZ |
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So for some godawful reason I decided I wanted an old two stroke last year. No, I didn't go the (relatively) sensible route of something like an Aprilia RS125 (like I passed my test on at 17 back in 2008) but rather chose a piece Eastern Bloc ste.....
After about 9 months I finally feel like I'm getting somewhere with this build. Bought it last year for about £300. It's turned into Triggers Broom......
Original 125 engine threw its main bearings shortly after getting it running - but miraculously still ran. I rebuilt it as a 175 with a new crank, barrel, piston and head (the cases and gears are the same as the 125). All bearings are now SKF.
Secondhand front wheel as original was rotten,
New stanchions (8 weeks to get here due to Czech snail Post and customs)
New chain,
New 6v battery,
New cables,
larger 26mm jikov carb,
Secondhand exhaust,
Rewelded steering stop,
Various parts powdercoated,
New gearbox dogs,
Secondhand dynamo off another engine (originals brush holder snapped)
The list goes on.....
Painted in two part rustbusters epoxy. Oh, spent fking HOURS drilling out the centrestand bolt that had seized solid as somehow the centrestand spring was missing and can't be refitted without removing the bolt.
Electrics were also a bloody nightmare. Someone had fitted tinfoil into the fuse holders and all bulbs blown. Had to get help with this as 6v electrics are a total mystery to me.
Brakes have been rebuilt as well. Drum brakes being a first for me.
Hasn't been on the road since 1991.
Rebuilding had been a nightmare. Parts diagrams are of appalling quality, nobody uses parts numbers, torque figures don't exist etc etc etc
With any luck it'll be MOT ready in another week or so ____________________ Suzuki V Strom 1050XT, Honda CBF500 ABS, |
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 Posted: 09:34 - 02 May 2023 Post subject: |
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Looks good to me,
That all sounds like very standard stuff on getting an old vehicle on the road though, Eastern or not.
Good luck on the MOT. ____________________ CBT: 12/06/10, Theory: 22/09/10, Module 1: 09/11/10, Module 2: 19/01/11
Past: 1991 Honda CG125BR-J, 1992 (1980) Honda XL125S, 1996 Kawasaki GPZ500S, 1979 MZ TS150.
Current: 1973 MZ ES250/2 - 18k, 1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 10k, 1981 Honda CX500B - 91k, 1987 MZ ETZ250 (295cc) - 39k, 1989 MZ ETZ251 - 50k. |
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Looking good! Best of luck with the test  |
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its made it this far in life already. It'll be fresh for another 20yrs after you're done with it. Most things like this is a case of undoing previous cheap mods and doing it right, whether that was bad from owner or bad from factory. ____________________ Gone: Yamaha DT50lc, Suzuki DR500, Suzuki A100, Kawasaki z250ltd, RD350YPVS, Suzuki DR Big, Kawasaki AR125, Kawasaki KMX200, Suzuki GS1000S, Katana 1100, GS550M, Suzuki RGV250
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When it comes to it, I've seen an air chisel with a bit of round bar in place of the chisel used to good effect to remove a stuck swingarm pivot.
The trouble with the dynamos on most of those jawa/CZ bikes is the brush holders are made of bakelite which degrades over time and crumbles to bits. Don't know if there's a good solution short of making up a replacement brush holder out of something more robust. I suppose in the days of 3D printing that becomes more accessable. Maybe even making up a silicone mould from a new set and "casting" some in thickened epoxy? People used to make new brushes by cutting/filing down old washing machine brushes.
Swapping out the charge relay for a modern one is also not a bad idea. If the relay fails, your charging system fails. When that red charging light comes on, you are no longer charging, even if it was caused by the charging relay failing.
The VAPE systems are excellent. Fit and forget. Only downside is the price.
if you can get hold of the skoda points, they have contact surfaces made entirely out of the contact material, the CZ ones are a thin sliver on base matal which can errode through distressingly quickly. Especially if you use resistor plug caps and/or plugs. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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stinkwheel wrote: | When it comes to it, I've seen an air chisel with a bit of round bar in place of the chisel used to good effect to remove a stuck swingarm pivot.
The trouble with the dynamos on most of those jawa/CZ bikes is the brush holders are made of bakelite which degrades over time and crumbles to bits. Don't know if there's a good solution short of making up a replacement brush holder out of something more robust. I suppose in the days of 3D printing that becomes more accessable. Maybe even making up a silicone mould from a new set and "casting" some in thickened epoxy? People used to make new brushes by cutting/filing down old washing machine brushes.
Swapping out the charge relay for a modern one is also not a bad idea. If the relay fails, your charging system fails. When that red charging light comes on, you are no longer charging, even if it was caused by the charging relay failing.
The VAPE systems are excellent. Fit and forget. Only downside is the price.
if you can get hold of the skoda points, they have contact surfaces made entirely out of the contact material, the CZ ones are a thin sliver on base matal which can errode through distressingly quickly. Especially if you use resistor plug caps and/or plugs. |
Yeah, that's exactly what happened with the brush holder, just snapped off.
What do you mean by charger relay sorry? I can't remember any type of relay other than the one for the indicators.
AFAIK the points were Tesla branded? ____________________ Suzuki V Strom 1050XT, Honda CBF500 ABS, |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 9 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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