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Lord Percy
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PostPosted: 16:09 - 14 May 2023    Post subject: Engine has a 'blip' feeling on deceleration Reply with quote

Triumph Tiger 900 (1999 model).

I've noticed my bike feels like it's making a very tiny and cyclic 'blip' on the engine when decelerating from high-ish speed.

It's roughly 2 blips per second, and is always well timed, but only happens noticeably at higher speed and decelerating, e.g. if I let off the throttle at 60mph I'll feel it.

I suspect it's a fuel injection thing, and an engine pressure thing.

Any thoughts/knowledge appreciated.
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 14 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does it just pop the exhuast on the overrun? All triumph triples do that...
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PostPosted: 16:38 - 14 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could be a small exhaust leak up at the headers allowing air into the system. It will combust any un-burnt fuel on the overrun.
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 14 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

How's the throttle cable tension? I remember them having a little electronic cam-wheel type arrangement to set the tension, maybe it's fiddling with the throttle?
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PostPosted: 17:25 - 14 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Does it just pop the exhuast on the overrun? All triumph triples do that...


I'm not sure what you mean, it's not popping and doesn't sound very exhausty.
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 14 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
Could be a small exhaust leak up at the headers allowing air into the system. It will combust any un-burnt fuel on the overrun.


But would this happen cyclically as mine does?

I'm not sure how to test for a small exhaust leak at 60mph Laughing but will try to inspect it when idle.
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 14 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
How's the throttle cable tension? I remember them having a little electronic cam-wheel type arrangement to set the tension, maybe it's fiddling with the throttle?


It seems fine but this is my first of this kind of bike, and first fuel injected bike, so I don't know if there's something different one ought to expect.

Will look into it, though if it's the throttle cable I would expect this problem to happen more consistently. In my case it seems to only be a high speed thing (or high engine revs, high gear, not fully sure yet, but only noticing it at high speed)
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 14 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's surging (bike accelerating or amount of retardation reduces) it's not the same.

The exhaust poping is just a noise and they all do it, by design. Cause it sounds cool.

You may be describing 'hunting' which is what a lot of modern engines do to reduce emisions. Basically it's changing the mixture trying to find one that is cleaner.

Maybe a oxygen sensor? Have you stuck it on on a OBD reader?
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 14 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

It isn't the exhaust at all and it isn't hunting, I think maybe I've not been clear in the way I described it.

During deceleration from higher speed, totally off the throttle, there is a cyclic 'blip' which feels almost like I'm tapping the throttle, but nowhere near the level of oomph that happens when actually tapping the throttle.

The best I can find from elsewhere to describe it is this forum post, but it's for a carb bike so I don't know if the exact situation is the same.

In my case, the 'blip' feeling is so slight that it might not even be a problem. The bike runs very well indeed so I won't go playing around with things unless this is a sign of worse things to come.
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 14 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 1050 goes pop, pop, pop on the overrun. They all do. If there's no lurch or apparent change in retardation I suspect thats what it is.
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 14 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah there's nothing severe happening, so perhaps this is natural.

I'll have a nose around the exhaust and throttle anyway but if it's a known thing on these bikes then I can rest easy a bit.
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 14 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like I say, I wouldn't consider a blip as such. Just a noise from the exhaust.

Think it terms of a rally car...

27 seconds in...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipkwVJt66_Q

Obviously no where near as loud...
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 14 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh no I'm not describing backfire at all.

Like I said, it feels like blipping the throttle, i.e. a physical jerking sensation.

But nowhere near as large as actually blipping the throttle. It's almost unnoticeable unless you focus on it. And only happens on deceleration, hand off the throttle.
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