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Posted: 18:23 - 19 May 2023 Post subject: Car braki pipe and hose replacement cost? |
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Anyone had brake pipes and/or hoses fitted recently to a small car? What kind of cost is it these days?
Ive advisories on the hoses and pipes. Im thinking apart from the fact it's bloody awkward doing anything on a car and nuts are always stiff (along with my back ) the hoses I could do myself but putting in pipes is a bit more involved so I might split the cost by doing the hoses myself but leave the pipes. However given im going to be crawling around under a wheel arch maybe I should have a crack at the pipes ad well. Thoughts, advice, sympathy all welcome.
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Posted: 18:31 - 19 May 2023 Post subject: |
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Brake hoses are trivial in price for most cars £10~£30* and easy to fit if you can manage to get 'em undone. Hard lines though? Be very unusual for them to degrade significantly
Just hoses you might get away with the old "latex glove under the fluid reservoir cap" trick to minimise the bleed operation but with hard lines and practically draining the whole system you might need to look into how the ABS unit will react.
*Once you find the correct part for your make/model of car check again on the hose part number. A Ford specific one might be twice the price of a generic one for essentially the same part. ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Posted: 19:43 - 19 May 2023 Post subject: |
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Oh boy...
Well I just paid £1100-ish for a total replacement of my brake lines & hoses. That was cripplingly painful. About £8-900 of that was labor. Admittedly that was a local independent BMW specialist rather than generic garage, could have possibly gotten it done cheaper. Their labor rate is about £80 an hour I think.
BMW 1 series, advisory for corroded pipes, previous owner fucking hammerited over said corroded pipes so when I went to undo one of the hoses to replace them with nicer braided HEL ones, it just sheared off.
That was for all 4 hard lines all the way from the ABS pump to each caliper, and fitting the HEL hoses I provided. Garage said they could form their own copper lines if I wanted, or I could wait an extra 2 days to get steel OEM ones shipped from BMW Germany and the price would be more or less the same, and apparently steel ones are better? No idea why, but as I wasnt in a rush I opted for the OEM ones.
I initially thought about having a go at it myself, however by the time Id bought all the required tools, that Id likely never use again, I thought it wouldnt be worth it. Then I got the quote from the garage and thought "fuck that Ill have a go myself." Then I looked up how to do it and how much aggro it would be (BMW in their infinite wisdom run the brake lines ontop of the fuel lines, so step 1 is "drain and remove the entire fuel system" which I didnt fancy trying to do on my back up on axle stands), and got the garage to do it. |
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Posted: 20:26 - 19 May 2023 Post subject: |
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Brake Pipes I used to fit loads of that stuff.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_tube?wprov=sfla1
Bundi Tubing. Kunt of a thing to work with. ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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So if I do make up some pipes then use the copper nickel stuff? |
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Oh, this is for the Agila? I doubt it'd be complicated then. Have you visually inspected the hard lines yourself? I'd be interested in a photo if you do think they'd dodgy.
Anyhoo, just buy all the stuff and lego-brick it. There's no point in getting fancy and making stuff yourself unless you think you can improve on the factory work or just fancy the entertainment. On a bike you're just making up short runs and don't even need a lift so have at it. On a car I'm assuming trolley jack and axel stands so fun is way down on the list.
At least the weather's nice ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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So if I do make up some pipes then use the copper nickel stuff? |
You will need a good quality flaring tool set. With Clamp, and crimping/flaring doofer.
The flare needs to have a folded-over lip. The lip is rolled towards the inner diameter of the pipe. That provides a robust area to be compressed by the nut against the seat.
A little practice in forming the flare is required.
Snapon/Blueprint made the best tools for this.
I think Draper are reasonably useful.
A small pipe cutter is handy too as the cleaner the pipe is cut, the better the flare and seal will be. ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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I've made them up in the past and it wasn't too bad but this was for a van where the access was much easier then crawling under a car.
Apart from buying the pipe/fittings/flaring tool etc
A trolley jack and axle stands or blocks to get it as high as possible
with the wheels off would make the job so much less of a hassle
and allow you to get a disc cutter in there to remove the old fittings
rather than fart about struggling for ages with rusty rounded off stuff.
A pipe bending tool would be very useful for creating any complex curves without kinking the pipe
A quick butchers on Ebay gives this
can't attest to the quality but I like the price
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/234632934771? ____________________ bikers smell of wee |
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